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« on: September 25, 2013, 01:08:48 AM »

Civil Rights:

Tougher laws against sexual discrimination in schools. 
Don't make the Patriot Act Permanent.
Continue and advocate affirmative action programs in colleges, but not the workforce.
Recognize and celebrate the historical anniversary of ending slavery.
Constitutional Amendment for equal women's rights. 
Enforce against wage discrimination based on gender.
Honor anniversary of NAACP each year.
Allow for gay adoptions.
Provide special funding for minority and women owned businesses.
Keep Rosa Parks stamp.

Economy:

Extend unemployment benefits by 20 weeks.
Extend unemployment benefits through recessions.
Restrict employer interference in union organizing.
Non-union members can't receive benefits negotiated by unions.
Raise minimum wage to $7.85/hour.
Allow for Air Traffic Controller's to unionize.
Ban discriminatory compensation by allowing 2 years to sue.
Stronger enforcement against gender based pay discrimination.
Allow workers to choose between overtime and compensation pay.
Leave farm price supports to the states.
Raise debt ceiling from $14.3 trillion to $16.7 trillion.
No new tax breaks for companies who send jobs overseas.
Impose tariffs against countries who manipulate or undervalue currency.
Impose tariffs against goods from Chile, Singapore, and Australia.
Assist workers who lose jobs due to globalization with extended unemployment of 59 weeks.
Review free trade agreements biannually for rights violations.
Withdraw from CAFTA and WTO.
Require open markets for U.S. goods in all trade agreements.
Eliminate corporate tax to bring back jobs from overseas.
Regulate subprime mortgage industry to avoid risky lending.
Revitalize severely distressed public housing.
Declare "federal emergency" if gas prices go above $4.00/gallon.
Monitor TARP funds to ensure mortgage relief.
Modify bankruptcy rules to avoid mortgage foreclosures.

Environment and Energy:

Encourage voluntary partnerships to reduce greenhouse gases economically.
Enforce more limits on CO2 pollution.
Provide tax incentives for renewable energy, energy production, and conservation.
Criminalize oil cartels like OPEC.
Invest in homegrown biofuels and more hydrogen powered cars.
Extend renewable energy tax credit through 2018.
Enforce more offshore drilling bans.
Require annual car inspections.

Law Enforcement:

Enforce anti-gay hate crimes.
Fund for optional job training programs in federal prisons so their job skills don't get rusty.
Allow rehabilitation drug convicts to get student loans.
Expand services for offenders' re-entry into society.

Healthcare:

No Medicare choice tax or spending cuts on Medicare.
Expand Medicaid to compensate those with pre-existing conditions and no denial for insurance.
Insure all children whose parents don't have health insurance.
Allow anyone 23 and under to remain on their parents' health insurance.
Establish a national childhood cancer database.
Establish a national diabetes coordinator.
Require insurers to cover breast cancer treatment.
Increase funding for occupational and physical therapy.
Give mental health full equity with physical health.
No denial of emergency treatment for lack of Medicare co-pay.
Medicare part D didn't need an expansion for enrollment period.
No cap on damages for medical lawsuits.
No time limits for suing over medical malpractice.
Establish a public option that's not government run.
No increase in Medicaid rebate for producing generics.
Limit self-employment health deductions.
We should have Medicare means-testing.
Establish Medial Savings Accounts like we do with social security and Medicare.
Subsidize private insurance for Medicare Rx drug coverage.
Require negotiated prices for Rx prescription drugs. 
Ensure access to contraceptives for low income women.
Provide emergency contraceptives at military institutions.
Allow for people to purchase health insurance across state lines.


Repeal Obamacare and replace it with these ideas!
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2013, 03:02:39 AM »

You know, a lot of the stuff under your healthcare header is part of what Obamacare is and part of what will make all of those things work is the fact that everyone will be required to carry health insurance.

The fact that you have "Keep Rosa Parks stamp" on there is offensive. It implies that you can just throw a couple of blatantly race-oriented crumbs at minority groups to get them to reflexively support you. "Oh, let's keep the Rosa Parks stamp. She's one of your people, isn't she?"

It's about as patronizing and condescending as if Democrats tried to win Republicans over with national holidays for Jesus and Dale Earnhardt.
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« Reply #2 on: September 25, 2013, 05:19:45 AM »

Will you STOP putting this up everywhere ... "My goodness aren't you clever and insightful" - was that what you wanted to see? OK
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« Reply #3 on: September 25, 2013, 05:26:08 AM »

if Democrats tried to win Republicans over with national holidays for Jesus

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« Reply #4 on: September 25, 2013, 07:35:01 AM »

On topic: no.
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« Reply #5 on: September 25, 2013, 08:23:46 AM »

What kind of jerk would oppose a Rosa Parks stamp, anyway?
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« Reply #6 on: September 25, 2013, 11:12:37 AM »

What kind of jerk would oppose a Rosa Parks stamp, anyway?

Ok so let's stay on topic. Would you agree to this in exchange for killing Obamacare? Yes or no? It's very simple and you guys are looking into it further than what needs to be looked into as is the case with most threads on here.
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« Reply #7 on: September 25, 2013, 11:16:50 AM »

You know, a lot of the stuff under your healthcare header is part of what Obamacare is and part of what will make all of those things work is the fact that everyone will be required to carry health insurance.

The fact that you have "Keep Rosa Parks stamp" on there is offensive. It implies that you can just throw a couple of blatantly race-oriented crumbs at minority groups to get them to reflexively support you. "Oh, let's keep the Rosa Parks stamp. She's one of your people, isn't she?"

It's about as patronizing and condescending as if Democrats tried to win Republicans over with national holidays for Jesus and Dale Earnhardt.

People shouldn't be required to buy insurance if they don't think it's worth it. There's some things about Obama care that I like though. I'm just explaining how I'd have it work. As for Rosa Parks, it's very simple. I thought of every liberal idea I support and posted it here so no offense should be taken. You guys are looking into this way deeper than what needs to be looked at. It's very simple would you support this in exchange for killing Obamacare? I can see how it would sound though to others.
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« Reply #8 on: September 25, 2013, 11:17:58 AM »

Will you STOP putting this up everywhere ... "My goodness aren't you clever and insightful" - was that what you wanted to see? OK

You're off topic. Would you agree to this in exchange for dumping Obama's 2,700 page bill? Yes or no?
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« Reply #9 on: September 25, 2013, 11:40:43 AM »

1) How in God's name do you think you're going to criminalize OPEC?

2) Why on earth would you put a corporate tax cut in a proposal aimed at Obamacare supporters?
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« Reply #10 on: September 25, 2013, 11:45:14 AM »

What kind of jerk would oppose a Rosa Parks stamp, anyway?

Ok so let's stay on topic. Would you agree to this in exchange for killing Obamacare? Yes or no? It's very simple and you guys are looking into it further than what needs to be looked into as is the case with most threads on here.

No.  Now answer the question.
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« Reply #11 on: September 25, 2013, 11:55:26 AM »

Taking health insurance away from tens of millions of people in exchange for a Rosa Parks stamp? You drive a hard bargain, barfbag.
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« Reply #12 on: September 25, 2013, 12:59:52 PM »

What kind of jerk would oppose a Rosa Parks stamp, anyway?

Ok so let's stay on topic. Would you agree to this in exchange for killing Obamacare? Yes or no? It's very simple and you guys are looking into it further than what needs to be looked into as is the case with most threads on here.

I think we'd all agree to killing Obamacare if you'd just stfu.
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« Reply #13 on: September 25, 2013, 02:27:07 PM »

No. There are good elements of the proposal. They're outweighed by the WTF parts.

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« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2013, 02:36:53 PM »

What kind of jerk would oppose a Rosa Parks stamp, anyway?

Ok so let's stay on topic. Would you agree to this in exchange for killing Obamacare? Yes or no? It's very simple and you guys are looking into it further than what needs to be looked into as is the case with most threads on here.

No.  Now answer the question.

If I answer your question then you have to answer whether or not you'd agree to this in exchange for Obamacare. My answer is that only a meanie head would take away a Rosa Parks stamp.
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« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2013, 02:38:26 PM »

Taking health insurance away from tens of millions of people in exchange for a Rosa Parks stamp? You drive a hard bargain, barfbag.

You're either 11 or didn't read anything else in the thread.
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« Reply #16 on: September 25, 2013, 02:39:02 PM »

No. There are good elements of the proposal. They're outweighed by the WTF parts.

Australia?

You're the first person to stay on topic. Thank you!
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« Reply #17 on: September 25, 2013, 05:58:24 PM »

Considering the vast majority of these measures are cosmetic changes, reforms already in Obamacare, or proposals that are favourable to Republicans, definitely not. Now if you suggested abolishing the debt ceiling, a trillion dollar infrastructure bill, and a UHC system akin to Germany's I might be open.
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« Reply #18 on: September 25, 2013, 09:45:55 PM »

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10/10 would trade Obamacare for all this
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« Reply #19 on: September 25, 2013, 11:43:34 PM »

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10/10 would trade Obamacare for all this

What do you mean 10/10?
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« Reply #20 on: September 25, 2013, 11:45:15 PM »

Considering the vast majority of these measures are cosmetic changes, reforms already in Obamacare, or proposals that are favourable to Republicans, definitely not. Now if you suggested abolishing the debt ceiling, a trillion dollar infrastructure bill, and a UHC system akin to Germany's I might be open.

Some of them are in the bill and it's ok because I like parts of Obamacare, but the mandate and government controlled costs I don't. A lot of this has to do with other issues. Basically I thought of every issue I agree with Democrats on and put it into a bill.
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