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« on: September 25, 2013, 04:06:51 PM »

What would your economic policy look like and what are your thoughts on some of these ideas? Let's say you're elected president and have a 53-47 majority in the senate, but the other party holds a 253-182 advantage in the house.

Social Security:

Place lockbox on social security so that politicians can't touch our money.
Encourage IRA's and 401k's in the private sector.
Allow optional personal retirement accounts in addition to social security.
Make pension plans portable from one job to the next.
Reduce tax payments on social security benefits.
Maintain long term solvency for social security and no privatization.
Keep retirement age at 62.
Taxes on gambling wins should go more towards social security.
Build more casinos in order to help seniors and make money for the state.
No privatization of social security in any way, shape, or form. (I hated Bush's idea in 2005.)

Taxes:

Replace federal tax brackets with a flat tax rate of 11.5%.
Maintain taxation levels on capital gains and dividends.
Provide tax simplification by requiring employers to deduct federal taxes correctly.
Make child tax credit permanent.
Eliminate the marriage penalty tax, but leave it up to the states.
Eliminate the death tax, but leave it up to the states.
Eliminate corporate taxes to bring back jobs from overseas.
No new taxes on anything.
Make a Taxpayer Protection Pledge.
60% supermajority needed to raise taxes.
No national sales tax or VAT.
Tax increases damage federal revenue by causing higher unemployment.
Eliminating unnecessary spending will make up for lost revenue in short term.

Welfare and Poverty:

Require welfare recipients to work 100 hours a month.
Maintain federal Social Services Block Grant funding.
Maintain flexibility and funding levels for TANF block grants.
Treat religious organizations equally for tax breaks.
Allow faith based initiatives for responsible fatherhood with funds and state involvement.
Institute National Service as a new social invention.
Provide for Section 8 Housing vouchers.
No promotion of marriage for TANF recipients.
Continue block grants for food stamps.
Allow state welfare waivers.
Maintain Welfare Reform Act from the 90's.
Provide tax credits to promote home ownership in distressed areas.
Increase the earned income tax credit.

Budget and Economy:

Constitutional Amendment requiring a balanced budget each year.
Implement Cut, Cap, and Balance.
Modify bankruptcy rules to avoid mortgage foreclosures.
Anti-recession and stimulus spending is helpful in certain cases.
Monitor TARP funds to ensure more mortgage relief.
Bailout for Chrysler and GM was good for our economy.
Focus on jobs and energy when funding infrastructure.
Declare "federal emergency" for federal gas prices when over $4.00/gallon.
Revitalize severely distressed public housing.
Regulate subprime mortgage industry to avoid risky lending and another housing market collapse.
Raise federal debt limit from $14.3 trillion to $16.7 trillion in exchange for annual $40 billion cuts.
National debt reduction is more important than tax cuts.
Investments in our economy builds stronger international alliances.
Limit chapter 7 bankruptcy.
Uphold commitments to states and taxpayers before budget cuts.

Free Trade:

Impose tariffs against countries who manipulate or undervalue currency.
Impose tariffs against goods from Chile, Singapore, and Australia.
Assist workers who lose jobs due to globalization.
Review free trade agreements biannually for rights violations.
Withdraw from CAFTA and WTO.
Require open markets for U.S. goods in all trade agreements.
Continue free trade with Oman.
Continue free trade with Vietnam.
Expand free trade to Andean nations.
Expand free trade to the third world.
Remove common goods from national security export rules.
Make trade relations with China permanent.
Closed borders are bad for free trade.
Increase global connections for big and small businesses.
Eliminate corporate tax to bring back jobs from overseas.

Jobs:

Extend unemployment benefits by 20 weeks.
Extend unemployment benefits through recessions.
Restrict employer interference in union organizing.
Non-union members shouldn't receive benefits negotiated by unions.
Raise minimum wage to $7.85/hour.
Eliminating corporate tax would bring jobs back from overseas.
Allow for Air Traffic Controller's to unionize.
Secret ballot as opposed to card check.
Ban discriminatory compensation by allowing 2 years to sue.
Stronger enforcement against gender based pay discrimination.
Repetitive stress laws aren't necessary.
Allow workers to choose between overtime and compensation pay.
Leave farm price supports to the states.

Corporations:

Repeal Obamacare reporting requirements for small businesses.
Let shareholders and stockholders vote on executive compensation.
Fund for nanotechnology R&D and commercialization.
No new tax breaks for companies who go overseas and eliminate corporate tax for coming back.
Expand lending caps for credit unions to small businesses.
Reform bankruptcy rules to include means-testing restrictions and partial debt repayment.

Technology:

Install biometric checks at 150 international airports.
End computer service tax; start R&D tax credit.
Level playing field for Main St. vs. Internet sales tax.
Delay digital TV conversion.
Increase waterway infrastructure by 500%.
Increase fines for indecent broadcasting.
No promotion for human space flight industry.
Ban internet gambling by credit card.
Permanent ban on state and local taxation of internet access.
Keep funding Amtrak.
Allow FCC to approve larger media conglomerates.
Subsidize for 100,000 hydrogen powered cars each decade until they're mainstream.

I may have repeated myself for points that cover multiple categories.
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« Reply #1 on: September 25, 2013, 05:07:02 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: September 26, 2013, 12:00:56 AM »


Is that for the healthcare bill?
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2013, 12:03:06 PM »


See the little hole at the bottom?  Its not a metaphor - that's for a human head.  And then another, and another, and another. Cheesy
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2013, 10:17:08 PM »

Social Security:
-Allow people to divert up to 10% (or $500, whichever is less) of their Social Security taxes into an IRA or Roth IRA in return for a corresponding reduction in Social Security benefits.
-Raise the wage base (amount of income subject to FICA taxes) to $150,000.
-Provide matching funds to people under age 30 to purchase US Treasury Bonds or index funds/ETFs comprised of US Treasury Bonds to be included in an IRA or Roth IRA.
-Impose a tax surcharge on high-income individuals over age 65 to be used for Social Security benefits. (It seems only too fair to make the rich olds pay for the poor olds).

Taxes:
-Reduce mortgage interest deduction.
-Eliminate tax deduction on gambling losses.
-Increase capital gains taxes on assets held for short periods of time (less than 30 days); reduce them on assets held for longer periods of time (greater than 5 years). This will shift the tax burden more towards speculators and less on actual investors.

Campaign Finance Reform:
-Establish stricter standards for non-profit groups engaging in political speech to maintain tax exempt status.
-Eliminate "dark money" contributions. Any and all contributions to any campaign, candidate or PAC exceeding $200 must be disclosed to the FEC.
-Corporations may not appoint any individual to their board of directors who within the past three years has held a federal elected office or an appointed position pertaining to the corporation's industry.
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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2013, 08:48:16 PM »

Abolition of capitalism, means of production controlled by workers' councils (as opposed to the central bureaucracy model that failed in eastern Europe) officially affiliated with the state, which otherwise exists only to make/enforce laws and to be in charge of the armed forces.
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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2013, 08:56:27 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: September 29, 2013, 08:54:27 AM »

Social Security:
-Allow people to divert up to 10% (or $500, whichever is less) of their Social Security taxes into an IRA or Roth IRA in return for a corresponding reduction in Social Security benefits.
-Raise the wage base (amount of income subject to FICA taxes) to $150,000.
-Provide matching funds to people under age 30 to purchase US Treasury Bonds or index funds/ETFs comprised of US Treasury Bonds to be included in an IRA or Roth IRA.
-Impose a tax surcharge on high-income individuals over age 65 to be used for Social Security benefits. (It seems only too fair to make the rich olds pay for the poor olds).

Taxes:
-Reduce mortgage interest deduction.
-Eliminate tax deduction on gambling losses.
-Increase capital gains taxes on assets held for short periods of time (less than 30 days); reduce them on assets held for longer periods of time (greater than 5 years). This will shift the tax burden more towards speculators and less on actual investors.

Campaign Finance Reform:
-Establish stricter standards for non-profit groups engaging in political speech to maintain tax exempt status.
-Eliminate "dark money" contributions. Any and all contributions to any campaign, candidate or PAC exceeding $200 must be disclosed to the FEC.
-Corporations may not appoint any individual to their board of directors who within the past three years has held a federal elected office or an appointed position pertaining to the corporation's industry.


Two issues.  Encouraging saving will tank the US economy.  And IRAs are a give away to the rich.  The majority of people don't have them.

-Increase capital gains taxes on assets held for short periods of time (less than 30 days); reduce them on assets held for longer periods of time (greater than 5 years).

By definition assets held for short periods of time are not taxed at the lower capital gains rate.
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« Reply #8 on: September 29, 2013, 11:22:40 AM »

Abolition of capitalism, means of production controlled by workers' councils (as opposed to the central bureaucracy model that failed in eastern Europe) officially affiliated with the state, which otherwise exists only to make/enforce laws and to be in charge of the armed forces.

You didn't mention the guillotine. Cry 

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« Reply #9 on: September 29, 2013, 11:30:40 AM »

mass confiscation
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« Reply #10 on: September 29, 2013, 01:34:51 PM »

In a nutshell:

* First and foremost, monetary policy should prioritize full employment rather than the inflation bogeyman.  Specifically, tolerate 4-5% yearly inflation.  Doing so is the single easiest and fairest way to improve the compensation and working conditions of labor.

* My ideal tax code would be drastically less reliant on income, payroll and sales taxes, and more than replace those revenue streams with carbon taxes and Henry George-style land taxes.  The estate tax would be raised, and the corporate income tax could be replaced by, say, a financial transaction tax.  I would also support various user fees and Pigouvian measures such as tolling all Interstate highways, as well as substantial "sin taxes" on things like drugs and HFCS.

Local taxation regimes should be based on the metropolitan area, rather than state or municipality, and there should be mandatory revenue-sharing.

* Transform Social Security into a universal guaranteed basic income, and Medicare into a single-payer system (that still preserves the independence of individual medical practices- let docs work for themselves) and, only once this is done, phase out some other superfluous programs.  I'd still keep food stamps on the grounds that it is an effective agricultural policy as well (and, not distortionary like most of our current ag subsidies).

* End the mortgage interest deduction and subsidized federal flood insurance.  They encourage bad behaviors and discriminate against renters.

* Massively shift the shape of our regulatory and subsidy regimes: no more fossil fuel tax breaks, anticompetitive licensing regimes (free the food trucks and the nurse practitioners!), exclusionary zoning, or parking minimums; replace with forward-looking infrastructure investment, incentives and requirements for energy-efficient retrofits, things like smart grids and public transit and natural flood mitigation stuff.
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2013, 10:21:11 PM »
« Edited: October 07, 2013, 10:30:38 PM by Redalgo »

I would never be elected President of the U.S. or have any cooperation in Congress, but...


Social Insurance:

Dismantle Social Security, or failing that raise the retirement age and implement a lockbox.
Folks need to save on their own or accept a shift to (very) modest living upon retirement.
Dismantle Medicare, Medicaid, TANF, and other programs of the liberal welfare regime.
Grandfather in provisions to honor current pension obligations but do not offer any more.
Implement a universal, state scheme for bundled basic life, health, and old age insurance.
Implement a basic income set to the est., minimum cost of living in each state or county.
Get money for this from the general fund / income taxes - not any special sort of tax.
Allow people to buy supplemental insurance from non-state providers.


Taxation:

Increase the income tax; eliminate all other forms of taxation at the state and federal levels.
The lowest quintile of earners among American adults shall pay a 10% rate for income tax.
The highest quintile of earners among American adults will pay a 50% rate for income tax.
The remaining quintiles will be adjusted accordingly to bridge the gap betwixt the extemes.
The basic income is income tax-exempt but no other exceptions or deductions should exist.
Treat capital gains, dividends, and inheretence as income.
Tax individuals instead of households or married couples.
All tax revenue not used by the federal government is to be apportioned to the many states.
Each state gets a cut of the income tax revenue proportionate to what their inhabitants paid.
Implement constitutionally-imbedded limits on how much the feds can take relative to states.
Local governments cannot tax income.


Poverty:

The basic income is unconditional; there is no work requirement or other strings attached.
Start a relentless PR campaign glorifying creativity, volunteerism, and excellence in labor.
Examine possible courses of action for improving the prestige of low-skill or menial work.
Examine possible courses of action for improving the prestige of artistry in general.
Initiate programs for rehabilitating the disabled, mentally ill, addicts, criminals, etc.
Maintain rigorous separation of church and state in human development projects.
Extend interest-free loans to students planning to enroll in college.
Examine possible reform options for the public education system.
Examine possible options for streamlining business regulations.
Shift from a retributive to restorative system of criminal justice.
Cooperativize ownership of Section 8 housing.
Eliminate food stamps, the minimum wage, and all subsidies to business.
Implement a nationwide “right to work” policy.
Let the many states, communities, charities, etc. decide what more to do.


Budget and Economy:

Establish an open, market socialist economy of cooperatives and sole proprietorships.
Mandate workplace democracy for co-ops; abolish all corporations and partnerships.
Forbid foreign-owned firms from non-socialist or undemocratic operations in the U.S.
Forbid American-owned firms from non-socialist or undemocratic operations abroad.
Adopt a non-interventionist economic position on recessions but try to elevate morale.
Focus on avoiding deflation and keeping inflation low, even if unemployment is high.
Do not release oil from the national strategic reserve to ease consumer demand.
Invest rigorously in infrastructure, exploration, R&D, the arts, museums, etc.
Regulate only to uphold social rights; otherwise leave producers and consumers be.
Regulations should not create unlevel playing fields or unfair terms of competition.
Elimination of the national debt is important; make sure to downscale the military.
Eliminate the federal debt limit but try to find a way to make balanced budgets normal.


International Trade:

Eliminate current tarrifs, embargoes, travel restrictions, and economic sactions but...
Refuse arms deals with foreign actors who fail to meet my standards on human rights.
Pursue (mostly) free trade as a first preference, and otherwise seek terms of fair trade.
Pursue alter-globalization; socialists and humanists should challenge the current order.
Forgive debts to LDCs, offer interest-free loans, and significantly increase foreign aid.
Search for ways to exert pressure on the IMF to stop coersing pro-capitalist reforms.
Endeavor for socialists and humanists to capture the WTO and then redirect its agenda.
Re-evaluate trade relations with the PRC and be prepared to make some concessions.
Seize reasonable opportunities to merge with other countires and harmonize policies.
Examine options for intellectual property reform.


Firms and Ownership:

Eliminate unemployment benefits; replace with unconditional, permanent basic income.
All land and economic capital will be confiscated and bestowed upon the People jointly.
Lend the People’s property under a new social contract to its prior owners for managing.
Firms must be owned and in some manner controlled by their workers.
Limit intra-firm disparities of compensation to reduce socioeconomic inequality.
Let individuals take informed, un-coersed risks; dabble in at least some deregulation.
Forbid firms from preventing or otherwise hindering unionization.
Forbid unions from hindering folks from negotiating independently or via other unions.
Require firms to adhere in their policies to a number of social rights protecting workers.


Miscellania:

Eliminate state censorship of expression, including fines for indecent broadcasting.
Nationalize all checking, debit card, and credit card services but not the banks.
Nationalize nuclear energy and massively invest in fourth generation reactor designs.
Aggressively expand funding for exploration and human development in space.
Regulations of the economy should be sentiocentric rather than anthropocentric.
Advance an agenda for sustainability and animal rights even if it hurts the economy.
Legalize prostitution and all recreational drugs; eliminate sin taxes as well.
Let people opt for denizenship - forgoing taxes but having to buy state services individually.


I am leaving some stuff out (e.g. campaign finance reform) but this is enough for now.
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« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2013, 12:11:50 PM »

Social Insurance:

1. Fold all existing private pension programs and plans (including tax favored plans, like the 401(k) and IRA) into Social Security. By this, what I am essentially proposing is having one program to cover the whole of the population - that is, a universal pension program. Social Security as it currently exists is paltry old age insurance. I am proposing something much more radical here. I want every person to have a pension and not be required to work once they retire. And I want that pension to be generous, rather than skimpy. Everyone in, no one out.
2. Lower the retirement age to 56.
3. Implement a minimum Social Security benefit of $15,000 per year, tax free. If a person's payments into the program exceed $15,000, they will be able to collect whatever it is they paid into it; however, if a person does not at least get $15,000 per year out of their Social Security fund, they will automatically get the $15,000. Adjust this dollar amount relative to increases in the cost of living (with the measurement for cost of living increases readjusted every ten years) and increases in worker productivity (with the measurement reflecting statistical increases published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics every year).
4. Medicare, Medicaid, Obamacare, and all other health programs and health insurance assistance programs administered by the United States government should be folded into a single payer system combined with socialized ownership of all medical facilities. All medical care should be free of charge, no doctors should be allowed to have a private practice or be allowed to turn away state dollars or accept payments out of pocket. Likewise, Big Pharma should be socialized and operated as a not-for-profit government enterprise, with all medicines and treatment provided absolutely free of charge to all.
5. Replace TANF and existing low-income assistance programs (as well as tax code distortions like the Earned Income Tax Credit) with a universal basic income payout of $35,000 per year, entirely tax free, with no work or other requirements. Adjust this dollar amount relative to increases in the cost of living living (with the measurement for cost of living increases readjusted every ten years) and increases in worker productivity (with the measurement reflecting statistical increases published by the Bureau of Labor Statistics every year).
6. Replace SNAP (food stamps) with a universal nutrition program that provides an allowance specifically for the purpose of feeding Americans.
7. Likewise, end means-testing public housing in favor of access to public housing for all. The  federal government should fund the construction of public housing co-operatives and communal housing, with communal kitchens and dining halls, for all those willing to live in them, not just the poor and indigent. That housing should be made better than private housing insofar as possible and should be governed by the residents themselves on a co-operative basis insofar as possible.
8. End the means-testing of education by providing universal access to early childhood education, higher education, graduate education, and vocational education for all. End private schooling altogether by folding private schools into the public school system and ban homeschooling outright. Education should not cost the American public a single dime - make sure it doesn't by banning the use of all tuition fees and funding it out of general tax revenues rather than on a property tax basis, with equalized funding for all schools. End the parasitic textbook industry by socializing production of educational materials and placing that production under the purview of the Department of Education.
9. Establish a universal childcare program as well as establish a paid parental, sick, vacation, holiday, long service, and educational leave regime to give parents a greater opportunity to care for and interact with their children in the earliest stages of the child's life.
10. Establish a universal elder care program to help the elderly and construct publicly-owned, co-operatively managed, retirement communities and homes for the elderly.

Taxation:

1. Lift the threshold by which one has to pay into the income tax to one dollar more than the universal basic income I have described above. That is, $35,001, so as to avoid taxation of the aforementioned universal basic income policy, adjusting as noted above. Failing that, raise the threshold for paying income tax to $35,001 and end the taxation of Social Security benefits.
2. Streamline the tax code by eliminating most deductions and forcing the rich to pay their fair share of taxes. Tax capital gains and dividends at the same rate that regular income is taxed.
3. Double the top income tax rate (from 36.9% to 79.2%) and tax all income above $400,000 per year at the 79.2% top income tax rate. Design income tax brackets that adjust with inflation so that wage earners are not forced into higher brackets by wage growth.
4. Implement a 100% tax on all inheritance, so as to prevent the furtherance of plutocracy.
5. End tax code recognition of marriage (really, end all state recognition of marriages) and treat every person as an individual when it comes to filing income taxes.
6. Re-establish taxation of luxury goods and make said taxation as progressive as possible.
7. Eliminate regressive taxation wherever possible in favor of progressive taxation.
8. Ban states from charging sales taxes on food, clothing, educational materials, medicine or medical devices, and cap the amount that can be charged in sales tax at 3%
9. Replace the corporate income tax and property taxation with a land value tax (LVT).
10. End capital gains taxation of co-operative enterprises.

Poverty:

1. Raise the minimum wage to $15 an hour and build in automatic increases for increases in the cost of living (with the formula re-evaluated every decade, as mentioned above) and increases in worker productivity (see above for how this would be calculated).
2. End sub-minimum wages for the disabled, teenagers, tipped employees, and all other workers who currently receive them. Discourage tipping with an aggressive propaganda campaign rightfully portraying tipping as degrading and servile.
3. End all restrictions on employing felons and other persons who are restricted in employment for crimes they have served their time for. Make it impossible to discriminate against these persons in hiring and likewise ban the use of all drug testing, personality quizzes or inventories and other means by which employers deny Americans the right to good paying jobs.
4. End federal, state, and local funding of religious charities and organizations or private organizations that provide welfare services or employment assistance. Cut out the middlemen.
5. Forgive all existing debts.
6. End the travesty that is the "criminal justice" system in favor of a system that encourages rehabilitation rather than retribution. Get rid of prisons as they currently exist; ban "solitary confinement," end the death penalty, and end life imprisonment. Pay prison laborers the minimum wage or do not work them at all. Treat prisoners like human beings.
7. Extend unemployment benefits so that they last up to 2½ years after the initial loss of a job. Allow persons to collect unemployment benefits at their full wage if they lose their job as a result of economic conditions or company relocation, allow them to collect ¾ of their previous salary if they are fired from their job, and allow persons to collect ½ their previous salary if they voluntarily leave their job. Those who are fired or quit their jobs should be allowed to make a case for full or ¾ salary before an unemployment insurance review board. Those collecting unemployment insurance who wish to work should be provided with a job comparable to their skill set, at union wages if they forego unemployment insurance payments for a 2½ year period. Upon the expiration of that time period, they would need to reapply for the public employment service and would be once again allowed to collect unemployment insurance; of course, if they were able to find a private sector job in that period, they would be able to withdraw early. Alternatively, those collecting unemployment insurance should be allowed to attend courses to improve their skills set at local community colleges or universities. A person who has reached the age of 50 should be allowed to retire early if they are laid off, as future employment prospects may be scarce.
8. Encourage the growth of labor unions and design a nationwide framework to update the largely out of date Fair Labor Standards and National Labor Relations acts. Side with workers, rather than employers in industrial disputes. Ban the use of scabs during a strike, end "right-to-work" laws entirely, and require worker representation on all corporate boards, proportional to the size of the firm. Push for worker ownership and management of industry.

Continued in next post.
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« Reply #13 on: October 08, 2013, 12:21:58 PM »

Budget and Economy:

1. Push towards the realization of a market socialist economy with democratic economic planning led by labor unions and worker-managed and owned co-operatives, as well as some entirely state-owned and managed industries.
2. Expand the share of the economy that is co-operative based by requiring worker representation on all corporate boards, eliminating the capital gains tax on all co-operative enterprises, and converting many federal services to co-operative management.
3. Reduce the workweek proportionate to increases in worker productivity. Immediately implement a six-hour day or a four-day week with future reductions dependent upon economic growth and increases in worker productivity.
4. Use deficit spending to pump up the economy in times of economic malaise, with automatic injections of cash into the economy any time that GDP growth goes negative.
5. Expand public access to media and the arts by detaching these activities from plutocratic patronage and implementing a national, publicly-funded and co-operatively managed plan for the arts and culture.
6. Nationalize the commanding heights of the economy.
7. Peg military spending so that it never exceeds a low percentage the United States' total GDP. (Not exactly sure how much here, I'm no expert)

International Trade:

1. Withdraw from NAFTA, CAFTA, the WTO, the IMF, and all other international arrangements that create inequities between the core and the periphery.
2. Enact real free trade. That is, make no regulations concerning trade between the United States and any foreign power. Allow for free movement of goods while also allowing free movement of people.
3. Forgive existing debts owed to the United States.
4. Ban the international arms trade and prevent American arms dealers from selling arms abroad and American buyers from buying arms from abroad.
5. Withdraw from all existing international treaties governing intellectual property and move towards public ownership of intellectual property.

Firms and Ownership:

1. Nationalize the "commanding heights" of the economy.
2. Require some degree of worker ownership or management of corporate entities. Encourage the growth of both labor unions and worker-owned and administered co-operatives.
3. Limit executive salaries to 25x the salary of the lowest paid employee in a firm.

Miscellania:

1. Repeal all laws limiting freedom of expression on or off the job, and protect the right of workers to criticize their boss or bosses without fear of losing their jobs.
2. Legalize and regulate sex work.
3. Legalize all recreational drugs and their use.
4. Abolish citizenship in favor of a concept of "residency" wherein a person is legally considered a resident of the United States upon entering the United States, has access to all American social services and the right to vote, run for office, et cetera. Establish English as the working language of the United States.
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« Reply #14 on: October 08, 2013, 08:22:20 PM »


2. Enact real free trade. That is, make no regulations concerning trade between the United States and any foreign power. Allow for free movement of goods while also allowing free movement of people.



You've finally become more pro free-trade than me... Tongue
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« Reply #15 on: October 08, 2013, 09:58:55 PM »
« Edited: October 08, 2013, 10:02:25 PM by Redalgo »

It's interesting to more comprehensively see how the tendencies TNF and I adhere to compare.

Great posts, and I like your idea by the way concerning media access! Grin
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« Reply #16 on: October 08, 2013, 10:55:30 PM »


Your ideas make my panties wet.
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« Reply #17 on: October 10, 2013, 02:26:40 PM »

You guys are pretty far left. I made my ideas centrist because of the scenario. You have a 53-47 majority in the senate, but the other party controls the house comfortably. How would you implement things which would be passed through?
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« Reply #18 on: October 10, 2013, 03:06:36 PM »

You guys are pretty far left. I made my ideas centrist because of the scenario. You have a 53-47 majority in the senate, but the other party controls the house comfortably. How would you implement things which would be passed through?

The only possible way to make any economic progress, bb, is to work towards eliminating the Republican house after 2020.  Its a very realistic goal.
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« Reply #19 on: October 10, 2013, 03:38:30 PM »

You guys are pretty far left. I made my ideas centrist because of the scenario. You have a 53-47 majority in the senate, but the other party controls the house comfortably. How would you implement things which would be passed through?

The only possible way to make any economic progress, bb, is to work towards eliminating the Republican house after 2020.  Its a very realistic goal.

Do you all see what I mean? ^
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« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2013, 12:43:10 AM »

I'd start with full employment. The right to a job would be guaranteed.

I'd make sure we have progressive taxation that hits corporations. I'd impose a transactions tax on banks that buy up other banks.

I'd implement a 35-hour work week.

I'd guarantee the right of workers to freely bargain. In other words, I'd ban so-called "right-to-work" laws.

I'd abolish tax policies that penalize unmarried people.

I'd nationalize the oil industry to fight price-gouging.

I'd pull out of NAFTA, and I'd make sure every environmental program also has a jobs program.

No farm subsidies for factory farms.

I'd prohibit mandatory uniforms in public schools, and I'd enforce 'Net neutrality.
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« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2013, 05:37:11 PM »

You guys are pretty far left. I made my ideas centrist because of the scenario. You have a 53-47 majority in the senate, but the other party controls the house comfortably. How would you implement things which would be passed through?

The things I want done would not get through either house, nor would the compromises I am willing to make because my party would not be unanimously in support either way, as well. So instead of watering down my ideas and losing I may as well propose what I actually want and accept the ensuing stalemate, then failure as the outcome to expect from the voting public not standing strongly behind one political faction or another. Liberalism would be functioning in government as it is meant to!
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« Reply #22 on: October 15, 2013, 07:22:16 PM »

Mine would be TNF's plus train's, minus
Establish English as the working language of the United States.
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« Reply #23 on: October 17, 2013, 03:56:06 PM »

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Zeitgeist_Movement
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« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2013, 11:57:54 PM »

Basically this: Social_market_economy
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