Who is the most socially conservative Democrat on the forum?

[DC Al Fine]

Debating between Mung Beans and Miles.

[H. Ross Peron]

Depends I guess. We're both strongly pro-life but Miles is pro-SSM while I'm pro pot legalization. So its a question of which should be weighed more I suppose.

hifly15 might be in the running too. He's pro-choice but at the same time strongly against both drug legalization and SSM.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

If it's just down to pot vs. SSM, I'd go with you being more socially conservative, Mungy.

[RedSLC]

probably hifly15, considering how strongly he opposes SSM, and also how he said that drug traffickers are the only people that might deserve the death penalty. I don't think I know most of his other positions, though.

[H. Ross Peron]

probably hifly15, considering how strongly he opposes SSM, and also how he said that drug traffickers are the only people that might deserve the death penalty. I don't think I know most of his other positions, though.

To be fair, he's also a very strong death penalty opponent.

[ElectionsGuy]

It would probably be Miles, I don't think I've seen any other democrat with more than a +4 social score.

[memphis]

Bushie, obviously.

[traininthedistance]

Obviously hifly.

[Pessimistic Antineutrino]

I remember seeing a Democrat from Germany with a +7 social score. Other than him definitely Miles.

[Kung Fu Kenny]

Obviously hifly.

Yeah.

[Supersonic]

Hifly, though he's not American (I think).

Otherwise tossup between Miles and MungBeans.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Bushie, obviously.

[Maxwell]

Opebo.

[Hifly]

Hifly, though he's not American (I think).

Nope, I hold 3 citizenships and the USA is not one of them!

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Surprised to see Cory's name hasn't been mentioned yet...

[Morning in Atlas]

Cory or hifly.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Surprised to see Cory's name hasn't been mentioned yet...

Why would it be?

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Surprised to see Cory's name hasn't been mentioned yet...

Why would it be?

I think you could argue that his views on eugenics/AIDS go beyond conservative.

[windjammer]

Miles, Mung Beans, and Bushie.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Surprised to see Cory's name hasn't been mentioned yet...

Why would it be?

I think you could argue that his views on eugenics/AIDS go beyond conservative.

His AIDS statement does have a resemblance to some extreme early 90s right-wing rhetoric, but that's just one issue.  I didn't see anything conservative about his eugenic views. Far from it - it's a belief in improving human nature. 

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Surprised to see Cory's name hasn't been mentioned yet...

Why would it be?

I think you could argue that his views on eugenics/AIDS go beyond conservative.

His AIDS statement does have a resemblance to some extreme early 90s right-wing rhetoric, but that's just one issue.  I didn't see anything conservative about his eugenic views. Far from it - it's a belief in improving human nature. 

Eugenics, however, was an at least semi-popular view in the early 20th century and contains elements of Hitler-esque thought.  I don't think you can say that such a view is progressive, especially since it's rooted at least partially in hate.

[Badger]

Bushie, obviously.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Surprised to see Cory's name hasn't been mentioned yet...

Why would it be?

I think you could argue that his views on eugenics/AIDS go beyond conservative.

His AIDS statement does have a resemblance to some extreme early 90s right-wing rhetoric, but that's just one issue.  I didn't see anything conservative about his eugenic views. Far from it - it's a belief in improving human nature. 

Eugenics, however, was an at least semi-popular view in the early 20th century and contains elements of Hitler-esque thought.  I don't think you can say that such a view is progressive, especially since it's rooted at least partially in hate.

And you being a progressive, progressivism must be good, and thus could in no way contain hate.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Surprised to see Cory's name hasn't been mentioned yet...

Why would it be?

I think you could argue that his views on eugenics/AIDS go beyond conservative.

His AIDS statement does have a resemblance to some extreme early 90s right-wing rhetoric, but that's just one issue.  I didn't see anything conservative about his eugenic views. Far from it - it's a belief in improving human nature. 

Eugenics, however, was an at least semi-popular view in the early 20th century and contains elements of Hitler-esque thought.  I don't think you can say that such a view is progressive, especially since it's rooted at least partially in hate.

You know what else was popular in the early 20th century?  Progressivism. Even though support for eugenics was not limited to progressives, and many progressives opposed it, there was a lot of overlap.  You can't say Hitler supported something and was a right-winger, therefore someone else who supports it must also be a right-winger.  Hitler's eugenic views weren't right-wing because they were eugenicist, they were right-wing insofar as they were part of a larger ideology.

[Mad Deadly Worldwide Communist Gangster Computer God]

Surprised to see Cory's name hasn't been mentioned yet...

Why would it be?

I think you could argue that his views on eugenics/AIDS go beyond conservative.

His AIDS statement does have a resemblance to some extreme early 90s right-wing rhetoric, but that's just one issue.  I didn't see anything conservative about his eugenic views. Far from it - it's a belief in improving human nature. 

Eugenics, however, was an at least semi-popular view in the early 20th century and contains elements of Hitler-esque thought.  I don't think you can say that such a view is progressive, especially since it's rooted at least partially in hate.

And you being a progressive, progressivism must be good, and thus could in no way contain hate.

Now you're getting it!

But in all seriousness, racism and hate are generally not considered progressive views by any means, even if we don't consider them conservative or center-right ones.  Keep in mind that even progressivism of today is considered far different than the progressivism of, say, Woodrow Wilson's time.  Was Hitler's support for eugenics considered part of a larger ideology?  Yes, and that needs to be considered when judging if a particular view is more to the left or more to the right.  I think you can argue that Cory's views are part of an ideology that's certainly not compatible with modern progressivism, and that those views far outweigh any support he might have for say, gay marriage and abortion rights.