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« on: October 03, 2013, 09:33:22 PM »

By that logic, Boehner won't fund care for kids with cancer since he won't allow a vote on a clean CR.

That may be true, but the Republican House wants to send this and other measures, to be handled on a one on one basis, to the Senate.

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And Reid, a majority of both Houses, and a majority of Americans want Congress to just pass a clean bill funding everything rather than picking and choosing like this.

You can't spin your way out of this one.

If you can't see that Republicans caused the shutdown but Democrats are now prolonging it...

What?!

The GOP is sending piecemeal Bills to fund things that they know are popular and to try to shame the Democrats into folding... and they're not.

The GOPs inability to reign in 80 nutcases, at the expense of the silent majority who don't want this is prolonging it. Obamacare is going nowhere, they're not going to undermine the elements that will IMPROVE the Budgetary situation ... the 2012 election and the Supreme Court have settled this.

Plus, the Shutdown is the aim, not the tool to achieve an aim. The Tea Party has been itching for a shutdown for the sake of one since before the 2010 election ... it's horrendous. The Dems are asking for nothing extra, they're keeping the GOPs spending limits ... the GOP House leadership has FAILED utterly.
 
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Fmr President & Senator Polnut
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« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2013, 09:42:47 PM »

If you can't see that Republicans caused the shutdown but Democrats are now prolonging it...

Huh?  The nation has been patiently and impatiently waiting for Boehner to bring up the clean CR for a vote for several days now.

What you've got is a series of proposals that the House GOP has passed to refund the government earlier today that Senate Democrats aren't just refusing to bring up for a vote (not a totally unreasonable position in and of itself if they think they can get something better), but they aren't merely refusing to negotiate, they're going on TV and loudly announcing that they won't be negotiating with the Republicans. I suppose it's a strategy to make Boehner crack (though it's telling in and of itself that the Republicans are the ones passing legislation while the Democrats are trying complex strategies to make the House leadership crack), but if it doesn't work it'll backfire on them heavily -- telling everyone you won't negotiate doesn't win you votes. Democrats could still come out the winners just because of the initial anti-Republican backlash at the start of the shutdown, I suppose, but they're busy reversing it right now.

It's very doubtful you're going to get a vote on a clean CR in the House, so by insisting on it (or waiting until the political situation has shifted (which it might not at all) until you do) you're unconstructively prolonging the shutdown. There's no other way to look at it.

There is, one based on facts.

The GOP could solve this right now, show leadership, do what they KNOW is right, tell the nutcases to back off, work with the Dems to pass the CR.

If you don't see that, then you're truly delusional.
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