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Famous Mortimer
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« on: October 06, 2013, 01:51:52 PM »

Notable candidates:

Abdullah Abdullah: We all know who this is, right?

Quayum Karzai: Current president's brother.

Zalmai Rassoul: Current foreign minister, one of his VP candidates is Ahmed Shah Massoud's brother, the other is a lady.

Abdul Rasul Sayyaf: Terrorist candidate. The guy who initially invited bin Laden to Afghanistan. The terrorist group in the Philippines is named in his honor.

Ashraf Ghani Ahmadzai: Former finance minister and World Bank official. One of his VP candidates is Adbul Rashid Dostum, the former Communist general turned Uzbek warlord.

Hashmat Ghani Ahmadzai: Brother of the above.

Abdul Rahim Wardak: Former defense minister who was fired by parliament for being too pro-American/anti-terrorism, basically the neo-con candidate.
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« Reply #1 on: October 07, 2013, 07:06:16 AM »

Would the Taliban be willing to back Sayyaf over disturbing the election? Would Karzai have the power to rig the election in his favour (no doubt that he would try)?
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« Reply #2 on: October 07, 2013, 09:04:42 AM »

One of his VP candidates is Adbul Rashid Dostum, the former Communist general turned Uzbek warlord.

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« Reply #3 on: October 07, 2013, 10:06:53 AM »

Would the Taliban be willing to back Sayyaf over disturbing the election?
Sayyaf was an uneasy member of the Northern Alliance since the Taliban first rose to power, and has been a fairly influential member of parliament since the invasion. Guess.
So he's a pretty damn Conservative Pashto. Big deal. So he's an old warlord. Major count against him in the Taliban's book - he's one of the very people they originally arose to destroy.
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« Reply #4 on: October 07, 2013, 10:08:15 AM »

Taliban's view of these 'elections'
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2014, 10:11:53 PM »

So this is a few days away...

What if the Afghan elections actually work?
http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/02/opinion/bergen-afghan-elections/

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« Reply #6 on: April 04, 2014, 06:08:08 AM »

Please ... these are not elections, but "elections".

There are about 10 million "ghost voters" in that country.
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« Reply #7 on: April 04, 2014, 08:55:41 AM »

If Zalmai Rassoul makes the run-off, you can say the elections are rigged.

Otherwise, they are reasonably free.
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« Reply #8 on: April 08, 2014, 06:44:40 AM »

Preliminary results show that Abdullah and Ghani will likely make it to the run-off:

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http://www.nation.com.pk/international/08-Apr-2014/rivals-cry-foul-as-soon-as-results-put-abdullah-leading
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« Reply #9 on: April 13, 2014, 08:15:36 AM »

With 10% of the vote in:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/04/13/us-afghanistan-election-idUSBREA3C07T20140413

Abdullah 41.9%
Ghani 37.6%
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« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2014, 11:51:20 AM »
« Edited: April 26, 2014, 11:53:09 AM by njwes »

An update courtesy of the NYTimes

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/27/world/asia/afghanistan-elections.html

I don't know enough about the electoral process in Afghanistan to have a legitimitely informed opinion, but it does sound like good news. We'll see.

Still not convinced Afghanistan has anything but but authoritarianism of one stripe or another in its future. But I'd find it ironic if these elections went off better than the ones in Iraq a few days from now.

Also, there're some results by province available if anyone with map-making skills feels the urge Wink
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« Reply #11 on: April 26, 2014, 12:06:49 PM »

I really hope Abdullah wins, just because it'd be hilarious to hear the news media frequently mention a guy whose first and last name are identical. It'd probably be the first instance since RFK's assassination. Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: April 26, 2014, 02:13:03 PM »

I really hope Abdullah wins, just because it'd be hilarious to hear the news media frequently mention a guy whose first and last name are identical.

Hadn't thought about that. To my ears at least Abdullah Abdullah is harder than Sirhan Sirhan in a fast-moving news broadcast; expect a lot of broadcaster verbal flubs, though not near Eyjafjallajökull levels.

AA's conduct thus far and the breakdown of the results thus far is pretty fascinating. Obvious ethnic/tribal division, though hopelessly so. I truly hope the second round can go through without any 2009-style hijinks.

I haven't read much of the literature in the field for several years now, but I do wonder how the developments in Iraq and Afghanistan (and of course Arab Spring countries) have affected the academic study of democratic transitions.
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« Reply #13 on: April 26, 2014, 06:59:46 PM »

Also, there're some results by province available if anyone with map-making skills feels the urge Wink

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« Reply #14 on: April 26, 2014, 11:12:05 PM »

Gracias!
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« Reply #15 on: April 26, 2014, 11:47:06 PM »

Either way, it appears we are winning.
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« Reply #16 on: September 21, 2014, 12:29:44 AM »

The end finally appears to be in sight.
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