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« Reply #1525 on: October 11, 2015, 11:25:52 AM »

Looking at the precinct map - what is up in Innere Stadt? ÖVP/FPÖ vote splitting leading to the SPÖ of all parties winning there the most precincts?
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« Reply #1526 on: October 11, 2015, 11:28:04 AM »

Yeah, it seems like many ÖVP voters went SPÖ this time because they didn't want the FPÖ to become the largest party. Interesting. Not the expected electoral earthquake, yet quite a stable situation compared to last time: Vienna is simply Vienna, I suppose. Everything below 33% will be underwhelming and disappointing for the FPÖ, I think.
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« Reply #1527 on: October 11, 2015, 11:32:40 AM »

With 60% of the vote counted, here's the new projection:

39.5 SPÖ
30.9 FPÖ
11.6 Greens
  9.4 ÖVP
  6.2 NEOS
  1.1 ANDAS
  1.0 GfW
  0.2 WWW
  0.2 Others

Turnout: 73.5% (+6%)
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« Reply #1528 on: October 11, 2015, 11:33:43 AM »

How the hell do they count this fast? I count votes myself every election, and that definitely takes at least two hours.
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« Reply #1529 on: October 11, 2015, 11:34:02 AM »

Yeah, it seems like many ÖVP voters went SPÖ this time because they didn't want the FPÖ to become the largest party. Interesting. Not the expected electoral earthquake, yet quite a stable situation compared to last time: Vienna is simply Vienna, I suppose. Everything below 33% will be underwhelming and disappointing for the FPÖ, I think.

Some more SPÖ voters will have come from the Greens too, I suppose, Bobostan appears very unusually red this time as well.

But yes, this very disappointing for the FPÖ - if you listened to them, they seriously believed they could make Strache mayor. 30% is weak for them in the current climate, that's about even with their OÖ result.
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« Reply #1530 on: October 11, 2015, 11:34:46 AM »

How the hell do they count this fast? I count votes myself every election, and that definitely takes at least two hours.

Because we know how to handle elections ... Wink
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« Reply #1531 on: October 11, 2015, 11:35:31 AM »

How the hell do they count this fast? I count votes myself every election, and that definitely takes at least two hours.

There are probably many people counting them, I suppose. Also, precincts are not exactly that big.
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« Reply #1532 on: October 11, 2015, 11:36:03 AM »

Some more SPÖ voters will have come from the Greens too, I suppose, Bobostan appears very unusually red this time as well.
Yes, that's probably why the Greens are losing a little bit. I think NEOS could have done some % better as well if it weren't for the two-horse race (that never was) between SPÖ and FPÖ.
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« Reply #1533 on: October 11, 2015, 11:36:49 AM »

Innere Stadt has gone to the SPÖ, first full district in.

Lol, Ursula Stenzl
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« Reply #1534 on: October 11, 2015, 11:38:36 AM »

What I don't understand... these are elections for both the Gemeinderat and the Landtag? The ORF website says that the prognosis is for the Gemeinderat - does this mean that the Landtag will be different, or is it one and the same entity...?
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« Reply #1535 on: October 11, 2015, 11:41:08 AM »

FPÖ projected to win Simmering and Floridsdorf districts with 42% and 40%.

SPÖ wins everything else, but Donaustadt and Favoriten are still close.

http://orf.at/wahl/wien15/#projection/map
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« Reply #1536 on: October 11, 2015, 11:45:31 AM »

What I don't understand... these are elections for both the Gemeinderat and the Landtag? The ORF website says that the prognosis is for the Gemeinderat - does this mean that the Landtag will be different, or is it one and the same entity...?

Gemeinderat and Landtag is the same thing.

The Landtag in Vienna is simply called Gemeinderat, because Vienna is a citystate.

The other thing that is elected today is the Bezirksrat in each of the Vienna districts, which is similar to town council elections in other states.
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« Reply #1537 on: October 11, 2015, 11:45:36 AM »

What I don't understand... these are elections for both the Gemeinderat and the Landtag? The ORF website says that the prognosis is for the Gemeinderat - does this mean that the Landtag will be different, or is it one and the same entity...?

The Gemeindrat is the Landtag in Vienna. It's the same entity, so.
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« Reply #1538 on: October 11, 2015, 11:48:51 AM »

Vassilakou (Green-leader) gets constantly hammered by the ORF-dude because she said she'll step down if they are getting less than 12.6% - they have 11.9% now ...
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« Reply #1539 on: October 11, 2015, 11:54:09 AM »

Turnout is approaching 74% (+6%) - which is probably the best thing today.

In a city of 2 million people to have 74% turnout is remarkable these days.
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« Reply #1540 on: October 11, 2015, 11:57:45 AM »

With 86% of the vote counted, there have almost been no changes in the results - only the ÖVP is dropping closer to a new 9% low.
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« Reply #1541 on: October 11, 2015, 12:00:20 PM »

Turnout is approaching 74% (+6%) - which is probably the best thing today.

In a city of 2 million people to have 74% turnout is remarkable these days.

I would rather say the FPÖ having a result significantly below their poll numbers and the likely continuation of Red-Green is the best thing, but that's probably just the left-leftist me Tongue
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« Reply #1542 on: October 11, 2015, 12:06:11 PM »

Turnout is approaching 74% (+6%) - which is probably the best thing today.

In a city of 2 million people to have 74% turnout is remarkable these days.

I would rather say the FPÖ having a result significantly below their poll numbers and the likely continuation of Red-Green is the best thing, but that's probably just the left-leftist me Tongue

Today, Red-Green deserved some trashing though and they badly need to change course with their politics: Unemployment has risen by 85% in their past term and they need to tackle this in their new term, instead of changing pedestrian lanes ("MaHü"). People and their jobs are more important than this.
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« Reply #1543 on: October 11, 2015, 12:11:29 PM »
« Edited: October 11, 2015, 12:13:38 PM by DavidB. »

I have mixed feelings about the results. On the one hand I dislike red-green coalitions everywhere (not a left-leftist Tongue). On the other hand this is Vienna, and the last time "Soziale Heimatpartei" remotely comparable to the FPÖ in some respects was this popular, a part of my family had to flee the city (some didn't manage to do so in time), so rooting for a party that actively references to that past as if it's something positive seems... wrong to me, personally. In that way, the red-green "win" (they still lost quite some votes) isn't too bad. Ah well, I have no horse in this race, so I'll just be analyzing the results and that'll be fine for me.

Has David Lasar been re-elected?
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« Reply #1544 on: October 11, 2015, 12:24:54 PM »

A great victory for left-leftism! Cheesy
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« Reply #1545 on: October 11, 2015, 12:36:57 PM »

Irrespective of all the other issues at hand, it is good to see a competent big city administration re-elected.
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« Reply #1546 on: October 11, 2015, 02:11:29 PM »


Oh yes! It's the first in a long time that I'm actually enjoying Austrian election results Tongue
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« Reply #1547 on: October 11, 2015, 03:04:17 PM »

how is the demographic and social conditions in the east art of the city? which I see the FPO carried

I see the OVP at under 10% that must be the all time lowest
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« Reply #1548 on: October 11, 2015, 07:06:07 PM »

Hi guys im a bit new to politics and i have one question, sorry if its a stupid one..


Hc Strache posted this:

2) Wir haben mit einem Drittel der Mandate (ein plus von 7 Mandaten) eine zukünftige Verfassungssperrminorität. Es gibt keine Verfassungsmehrheit im Wiener Landtag ohne uns. Rot-Grün können daher kein Ausländerwahlrecht beschließen.

(2) We have a third of the seats (an increase of 7 mandates) a future constitution blocking minority. There is no constitutional majority in the parliament in Vienna without us. Red-green can therefore decide not foreigners suffrage.) Translate at work..



And i dont get it, dont you just need 51 seats for a koalition, here he says something completely different so can someone please explain to me what he means by this.. Thank you!
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« Reply #1549 on: October 11, 2015, 07:08:09 PM »

I suppose changing the city constitution takes 2/3 of votes.
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