German Elections & Politics

[Tender Branson]

Men voted:



Women voted:



AfD by age:



NPD by age:

[Tender Branson]

The latest ZDF-Hochrechnung has the NPD at 4.9%, which would mean they would be out of the parliament.

But the ARD-one still has them at 5.0%, so ... let's wait.

[Tender Branson]

Saxony's Governor Tillich (CDU) is still not 100% ruling out a coalition with the AfD, despite Merkel basically "forbidding" it.

Maybe he just wants to get the biggest bang for the buck in the coalition talks: By not ruling out a AfD coalition, he could put increasing pressure on an already small SPD and put a strong conservative stamp on a Grand Coalition.

[Tender Branson]

CDU nearing 40% in the latest ZDF-projection (39.9%), while the NPD is back up to 5.0% and the AfD at 10%.

SPD slips further back towards 12% (12.2)

Looks like the final results will show if the NPD is in or out.

[Tender Branson]

The actual count can be viewed here:

http://www.statistik.sachsen.de/wpr_neu/pkg_s10_gew.prc_ueb_aw?p_bzid=LW14

More than half of all cities are now counted. No district fully in yet though.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Men voted:



Women voted:

Men are obviously stupid.

[Tender Branson]

Actual statewide count:

272/446 cities

10.6% AfD
  5.6% NPD

Of course, mostly rural areas are in so far.

NPD only gets 3% in Dresden and Leipzig, while the AfD only has 7-8% there.

[Tender Branson]

I wonder where Lewis is right now ...

And Franzl ...

Too bad they are not here posting.

[Tender Branson]

The first 2 districts are now fully counted.

Sächsische Schweiz-Osterzgebirge 3

11.0% AfD
  8.7% NPD

Erzgebirge 4

11.2% AfD
  5.8% NPD

[Unimog]

NPD still at 5% - thats 5% too much.

[Yeahsayyeah]

It seems, that the only district, that will not got to the CDU is Leipzig 2, that has the "Szeneviertel" of Connewitz and Südvorstadt in the south of the city in it. Some other Leipzig constituencies are close, but CDU should eek out a win in all of them, some with very thin margins. One Chemnitz constituency was close. Dresden was awfully lame.

[Tender Branson]

Does anyone know what's wrong with Bautzen 5 ?

15% AfD
11% NPD

100% counted.

That's up from 7% NPD and 0% AfD in 2009.

[Yeahsayyeah]

Does anyone know what's wrong with Bautzen 5 ?

15% AfD
11% NPD

100% counted.

That's up from 7% NPD and 0% AfD in 2009.

The rise of 700 votes in the city of Bautzen of about 38.000 inhabitants maybe comes from the mobilisation against an Asylbewerberheim there. That's the only local factor I could think of, because this is a result and difference towards 2009 without parallel. AfD is regularly stronger in East Saxony, because of the near border associated by it and maybe even the dumb people's fear of the wolf.

[Tender Branson]

Does anyone know what's wrong with Bautzen 5 ?

15% AfD
11% NPD

100% counted.

That's up from 7% NPD and 0% AfD in 2009.

The rise of 700 votes in the city of Bautzen of about 38.000 inhabitants maybe comes from the mobilisation against an Asylbewerberheim there. That's the only local factor I could think of, because this is a result and difference towards 2009 without parallel. AfD is regularly stronger in East Saxony, because of the near border associated by it and maybe even the dumb people's fear of the wolf.

Ah yeah, thx.

Hate against asylum seekers is a well-known motivation for NPD/AfD-voters (more so for the NPD of course, but the AfD recently jumped on the anti-asylum train as well).

Previously, I only knew Bautzen because of the popular band Silbermond.

[Yeahsayyeah]

Bautzen actually is a beautiful town, so for me such results really come out of nothing. I was born there and lived there for the first five years of my life. So, such results really hurt.

[Tender Branson]

Bautzen actually is a beautiful town, so for me such results really come out of nothing. I was born there and lived there for the first five years of my life. So, such results really hurt.

I know, these results are a shame for this city:



But don't worry: Headlines like these ("Asylum seekers live in 4-star hotel") would probably yield a 40% FPÖ-result in an Austrian town, so you are "well-off" with the 26% for AfD/NPD in Bautzen ...



http://www.sz-online.de/sachsen/bautzen-bringt-asylbewerber-in-vier-sterne-hotel-unter-2848699.html

[Yeahsayyeah]

well, it's an ex-four-star-hotel, of course.

[Yeahsayyeah]

It's Budyšin.

Only, if you belong to the ethnic minority of the Sorbs.

[Yeahsayyeah]

Well, it's probably not "linguistic imperialism" to call a city, like a huge majority of its inhabitants call it. ;-)

Without having worked out the details there seems a quite strong correlation between AfD strength and DSU strength of 1990/94.

[MaxQue]

What was DSU?

[Middle-aged Europe]

What was DSU?

Basically the CSU's short-lived attempt to expand to East Germany back in 1989/1990 (DSU stands for German Social Union instead of Christian Social Union).

However, the experiment was soon abandoned at the CDU's request, because they didn't want to face a conservative competition outside of Bavaria.

After the DSU was left to survive on its own, it was quickly reduced to the status of a minor splinter party.

[Yeahsayyeah]

What was DSU?

Basically the CSU's short-lived attempt to expand to East Germany back in 1989/1990 (DSU stands for German Social Union instead of Christian Social Union).

However, the experiment was soon abandoned at the CDU's request, because they didn't want to face a conservative competition outside of Bavaria.

After the DSU was left to survive on its own, it was quickly reduced to the status of a minor splinter party.

That's one part of the story. The other part is: The right wing of the GDR civil rights movement founding a party. The CDU also had been a bloc party, so the DSU started as an alternative for those who did not want to be associated with bloc partydom and the old regime. DSU turned out to attract more conservative people. And then came the CSU intervention that did not really work out well, especially since most competent members went to the CDU quite quickly, at least after they did'nt pass the threshold in the 1990 Bundestag and Landtag elections.

[Franzl]

NPD 4,9 !

[freek]

Looks like AfD, as expected, took some of the NPD vote.

Yeah, if the NPD ends up with 4.99% I wouldn't really mind the AfD in the state parliament.

NPD ends up with 4.95% in the preliminary final results. . 808 votes short of the 5% hurdle.

[mountvernon]

What was DSU?

Basically the CSU's short-lived attempt to expand to East Germany back in 1989/1990 (DSU stands for German Social Union instead of Christian Social Union).

However, the experiment was soon abandoned at the CDU's request, because they didn't want to face a conservative competition outside of Bavaria.

After the DSU was left to survive on its own, it was quickly reduced to the status of a minor splinter party.

That's one part of the story. The other part is: The right wing of the GDR civil rights movement founding a party. The CDU also had been a bloc party, so the DSU started as an alternative for those who did not want to be associated with bloc partydom and the old regime. DSU turned out to attract more conservative people. And then came the CSU intervention that did not really work out well, especially since most competent members went to the CDU quite quickly, at least after they did'nt pass the threshold in the 1990 Bundestag and Landtag elections.

What was the "right wing" of the GDR civil rights movement?  More associated with the Lutheran Church?

How important was the CDU block party in the creation of the "new" CDU in the East?