German Elections & Politics

[Sozialliberal]

So will there be a revival of SPD-Linke coalition, but this time with Grüne also?

Almost certainly.

[Bumaye]

So will there be a revival of SPD-Linke coalition, but this time with Grüne also?

R2G (SPD-Green-Left) is the most likely coalition but there are other possibilities. Jamaica coalition (SPD-CDU-Greens) and Germany coalition (SPD-CDU-FDP) are also possible even though unlikely that SPD and CDU will join forces again after just losing more than 10% doing so. Maybe even the traffic light coalition (SPD-Greens-FDP) is possible, but with a really small majority.

[Beezer]

Worst result ever for a winning party. Previous record: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landtagswahl_in_Schleswig-Holstein_1950

[Mike88]

So will there be a revival of SPD-Linke coalition, but this time with Grüne also?

R2G (SPD-Green-Left) is the most likely coalition but there are other possibilities. Jamaica coalition (SPD-CDU-Greens) and Germany coalition (SPD-CDU-FDP) are also possible even though unlikely that SPD and CDU will join forces again after just losing more than 10% doing so. Maybe even the traffic light coalition (SPD-Greens-FDP) is possible, but with a really small majority.

With those many options and even though a SPD-Green-Left coalition is ,as you said, more likely, will it be stable to last 5 years?

[Sozialliberal]

Well, only time will tell if a coalition is stable enough to last a whole legislative period.

[Beezer]

Interesting that this time around, contrary to Meck-Westpom, the AfD is doing significantly better than the exit polls had predicted:

[jaichind]

Non-Pirate Others seems to have done well.  I guess NPD must have done pretty well which would be surprising given that AfD is running strong. 

[Lotuslander]

Strongest party in different areas of Berlin:

[Bumaye]

Non-Pirate Others seems to have done well.  I guess NPD must have done pretty well which would be surprising given that AfD is running strong. 

Nope they didn't. So far this is the results of the ballots counted of the smaller parties:

Die PARTEI: 2,1% (YEAAAAAH!!!!!)
Tierschutzpartei (Animal protection party): 2,0%
Piratenpartei (Pirates): 1,8%
Graue Panther (Pensioners party): 1,1%
NPD: (Nazis) 0,6%
Gesundheitsforschung (Health research): 0,5%
Pro Deutschland (Anti-Islam party): 0,5%
ALFA: 0,4%
DKP (Communists): 0,2%

Everyone else is completely meaningless.

[Sozialliberal]

[Bumaye]

Strongest party in different areas of Berlin:

That's wrong. The black district is Treptow-Köpenick, so far in terms of first votes the SPD is leading with 24,6% (AfD 22,8%) and in terms of second votes the Linke (22,2%) is the strongest party. (AfD 21,3%).

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

Non-Pirate Others seems to have done well.  I guess NPD must have done pretty well which would be surprising given that AfD is running strong.  

Nope they didn't. So far this is the results of the ballots counted of the smaller parties:

Die PARTEI: 2,1% (YEAAAAAH!!!!!)
Tierschutzpartei (Animal protection party): 2,0%
Piratenpartei (Pirates): 1,8%
Graue Panther (Pensioners party): 1,1%
NPD: (Nazis) 0,6%
Gesundheitsforschung (Health research): 0,5%
Pro Deutschland (Anti-Islam party): 0,5%
ALFA: 0,4%
DKP (Communists): 0,2%

Everyone else is completely meaningless.

ÖDP [ * ]



https://www.wahlen-berlin.de/wahlen/be2016/afspraes/uebersicht_bezirk-02-friedrichshain-kreuzberg_gesamt.html

Kreuzberg as always do not fail in being extreme.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Ah Berlin, you crazy thing.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Oh yeah don't make maps until all the results are in. Good advice everywhere, really, really good advice in a city like Berlin.

[President Johnson]

Bad that the partisan landscape is so divided. An assembly with six parties is difficult but at least the Social Democrats are leading again and continue to govern in the first place.

[Yeahsayyeah]

And the first district is fully counted. AFD gain Lichtenberg 1 (Hohenschönhausen-Nord, Wartenberg, Falkenberg) from LINKE. Expect some of those to follow, although the main loser, percentage wise seems to be the SPD here.

It also seems the Linke has lost votes in their Plattenbau strongholds and won big in the inner city west. AFD is acellerating the transformation of the Linke to a normal left wing party, a bit.

[Yeahsayyeah]

Mitte 6 (Gesundbrunnen) - SPD hold - by a hair against Greens
Spandau 4 (Staaken - Falkenhagener Feld Süd) - CDU hold - by a hair against SPD
Tempelhof-Schöneberg 1 (Schöneberg-Nord) - Greens hold

[jaichind]

SPD under-performing exit polls while AfD over-performing exit polls. 

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

Oh yeah don't make maps until all the results are in. Good advice everywhere, really, really good advice in a city like Berlin.

http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/abgeordnetenhauswahl-in-berlin-2016-alle-ergebnisse-a-1111445.html

Fortunately there is nice, actualized map in der Spiegel webpage.

[Sozialliberal]

Seats update

[DavidB.]

High-energy Linke coming in third before the terrible Greens is great news.

[windjammer]

So Merkel is the last chancellor before an Afd-FDP-CDU or Linke-SPD-Green coalition?

[Zanas]

So Merkel is the last chancellor before an Afd-FDP-CDU or Linke-SPD-Green coalition?

Well who knows how the federal level will vote. Landtags- and Bundestagswahlen tend to differ quite a bit.

Marzahn-Hellersdorf 5, and to a lesser extent n°4, really stick out in the East. What is this neighborhood like ? Is it a new thing, or was it already a bourgeois cluster in the East before 1990 ?

[Yeahsayyeah]

Low energy CDU 0,2 per cent in front of the Greens in East Berlin overall. Tough fight for fourth place. ;-)

[Yeahsayyeah]

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It's mainly suburban. One-family-houses and two-family-houses, old and new. Such areas are normally the strongest for the CDU in German cities. (higher income, older population, more Christianity, less diversity, and so on).

Most of the development in Kaulsdorf seems to have been from about 1909 to 1940 with some extensions in the eighties and the 2000s. In Mahlsdorf it's from 1902 to 1940 with some 1990s. So it is basically "old suburbia" with some "new suburbia". And so its no "new thing"