IN-Gov: Evan Bayh looking at 2016 race

[badgate]

Indiana Secretary of State Election, 1986: Evan Bayh victory, 8 point margin
Indiana Gubernatorial Election, 1988: Evan Bayh victory, 6 point margin
Indiana Gubernatorial Election, 1992: Evan Bayh victory, 25 point margin
Indiana Senate Election, 1998: Evan Bayh victory, 25 point margin
Indiana Senate Election, 2004: Evan Bayh victory, 24 point margin

yeah safe R for sure

But you don't understand! Things have changed! Indiana was Safe D in Presidential elections from 1986-2004, which is why Evan Bayh could win. But in flipped to Safe R for presidential elections in 2008 so Bayh who is extremely liberal could never win now.

Do you realize that John Kerry lost Indiana in 2004 and Barack Obama won it in 2008?

[PolitiJunkie]

Indiana Secretary of State Election, 1986: Evan Bayh victory, 8 point margin
Indiana Gubernatorial Election, 1988: Evan Bayh victory, 6 point margin
Indiana Gubernatorial Election, 1992: Evan Bayh victory, 25 point margin
Indiana Senate Election, 1998: Evan Bayh victory, 25 point margin
Indiana Senate Election, 2004: Evan Bayh victory, 24 point margin

yeah safe R for sure

But you don't understand! Things have changed! Indiana was Safe D in Presidential elections from 1986-2004, which is why Evan Bayh could win. But in flipped to Safe R for presidential elections in 2008 so Bayh who is extremely liberal could never win now.

Do you realize that John Kerry lost Indiana in 2004 and Barack Obama won it in 2008?

Very partisan. You can't go around stating your opinion as absolute facts. God, I'm so disgusted by the Democrats on this forum.

[Maxwell]

Indiana Secretary of State Election, 1986: Evan Bayh victory, 8 point margin
Indiana Gubernatorial Election, 1988: Evan Bayh victory, 6 point margin
Indiana Gubernatorial Election, 1992: Evan Bayh victory, 25 point margin
Indiana Senate Election, 1998: Evan Bayh victory, 25 point margin
Indiana Senate Election, 2004: Evan Bayh victory, 24 point margin

yeah safe R for sure

But you don't understand! Things have changed! Indiana was Safe D in Presidential elections from 1986-2004, which is why Evan Bayh could win. But in flipped to Safe R for presidential elections in 2008 so Bayh who is extremely liberal could never win now.

Do you realize that John Kerry lost Indiana in 2004 and Barack Obama won it in 2008?

he's being some kind of bad parody of a poster here.

[PolitiJunkie]

Indiana Secretary of State Election, 1986: Evan Bayh victory, 8 point margin
Indiana Gubernatorial Election, 1988: Evan Bayh victory, 6 point margin
Indiana Gubernatorial Election, 1992: Evan Bayh victory, 25 point margin
Indiana Senate Election, 1998: Evan Bayh victory, 25 point margin
Indiana Senate Election, 2004: Evan Bayh victory, 24 point margin

yeah safe R for sure

But you don't understand! Things have changed! Indiana was Safe D in Presidential elections from 1986-2004, which is why Evan Bayh could win. But in flipped to Safe R for presidential elections in 2008 so Bayh who is extremely liberal could never win now.

Do you realize that John Kerry lost Indiana in 2004 and Barack Obama won it in 2008?

he's being some kind of bad parody of a poster here.

Nope, I'm literally using exact phrases and logic that barfbag employs regularly.

[TX Conservative Dem]

I do NOT see Bayh making the jump to seek the Indiana governorship again in 2016.

He flirted with running in 2012 (despite $13 million leftover from Senate campaign accounts) and BAILED by not running.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

John Gregg lost by just 82,000 votes and denied Pence a majority, despite Indiana swinging from 50% - 49% Democrat to 54%-44% Republican in the Presidential race.



Indiana is very much in play for Democrats. Not safe R by any means.

[morgieb]

Really dislike Bayh, but he can clearly win.

[Eraserhead]

Evan Bayh is a terrible person.

[Maxwell]

John Gregg lost by just 82,000 votes and denied Pence a majority, despite Indiana swinging from 50% - 49% Democrat to 54%-44% Republican in the Presidential race.



Indiana is very much in play for Democrats. Not safe R by any means.

This race would probably be a toss-up. Even if Pence has high approvals, he would be facing another person with very strong ratings in Indiana.

[TX Conservative Dem]

You know Pence might have White House ambitions down the road.

Bayh and his father have won a combined 8 statewide elections in the Hoosier State.

In California, there are the Brown Dynasty: Pat, Jerry and Katherine: winning 10 statewide elections in between them.

[Maxwell]

You know Pence might have White House ambitions down the road.

Bayh and his father have won a combined 8 statewide elections in the Hoosier State.

In California, there are the Brown Dynasty: Pat, Jerry and Katherine: winning 10 statewide elections in between them.

Those are three thoughts that are completely disconnected from one another.

[TX Conservative Dem]

Bayh will have a hard time against Pence, but Pence will try to tie him to Obama.

[Pessimistic Antineutrino]

Bayh will have a hard time against Pence, but Pence will try to tie him to Obama.

And most likely fail. Bayh was senator for only two years of the Obama presidency.
If Bayh runs I don't see this being any more than a tossup unless Bayh has a major scandal or Pence becomes EXTREMELY popular.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

You know Pence might have White House ambitions down the road.

Bayh and his father have won a combined 8 statewide elections in the Hoosier State.

In California, there are the Brown Dynasty: Pat, Jerry and Katherine: winning 10 statewide elections in between them.

Then there's the one when Dan Quayle Landslide Evans dad.

[publicunofficial]

John Gregg won't run again, which clears Bayh's path if he wants the nomination.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

You know Pence might have White House ambitions down the road.

Bayh and his father have won a combined 8 statewide elections in the Hoosier State.

In California, there are the Brown Dynasty: Pat, Jerry and Katherine: winning 10 statewide elections in between them.

Then there's the one when Dan Quayle Landslide Evans dad.

Indiana 1980 was a pretty solid loss for an incumbent Senator, and certainly an embarrassing one considering who the challenger was, but hardly a 'landslide'.

[Famous Mortimer]

You people seem to forget the reason why Bayh isn't a Senator anymore. He retired because polls showed him tied or losing. He isn't that popular anymore. Political dynamics changed during the Bush years. Right-leaning voters are no longer willing to give a pass to a Democrat because his dad was a senator in ancient history.

Furthermore, as a liberal, I'd rather have a Republican win.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

You people seem to forget the reason why Bayh isn't a Senator anymore. He retired because polls showed him tied or losing. He isn't that popular anymore. Political dynamics changed during the Bush years. Right-leaning voters are no longer willing to give a pass to a Democrat because his dad was a senator in ancient history.

Furthermore, as a liberal, I'd rather have a Republican win.

Birch never was as popular as his son (look at his election results and, of course, his defeat in 1980). I find that hard to believe the people voted for Evan, esspecially in later races, "cuz his daddy was a Senator".

[Famous Mortimer]

You people seem to forget the reason why Bayh isn't a Senator anymore. He retired because polls showed him tied or losing. He isn't that popular anymore. Political dynamics changed during the Bush years. Right-leaning voters are no longer willing to give a pass to a Democrat because his dad was a senator in ancient history.

Furthermore, as a liberal, I'd rather have a Republican win.

Birch never was as popular as his son (look at his election results and, of course, his defeat in 1980). I find that hard to believe the people voted for Evan, esspecially in later races, "cuz his daddy was a Senator".

You still didn't address how he was polling badly in 2010 as an incumbent.

[publicunofficial]

You people seem to forget the reason why Bayh isn't a Senator anymore. He retired because polls showed him tied or losing. He isn't that popular anymore. Political dynamics changed during the Bush years. Right-leaning voters are no longer willing to give a pass to a Democrat because his dad was a senator in ancient history.

Furthermore, as a liberal, I'd rather have a Republican win.

Birch never was as popular as his son (look at his election results and, of course, his defeat in 1980). I find that hard to believe the people voted for Evan, esspecially in later races, "cuz his daddy was a Senator".

You still didn't address how he was polling badly in 2010 as an incumbent.

There is the fact that it was 2010 and he was a Democrat in a red state.