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« Reply #25 on: October 17, 2013, 01:08:46 PM »

Thanks to all who included me, I consider it a very kind compliment. 
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« Reply #26 on: October 17, 2013, 01:17:58 PM »

The obvious answer is Bandit
seatown. Openly said he wanted a Republican Presidential victory in 2016 in protest, and often defends positions devoid of all logic in kind of a weird mirroring of libertarianism (examples include his recent post about driving or saying that he doesn't care if he people lose their jobs if they aren't unionized.)
BRTD you are fool. You've been around here long enough to realize that you need to imagine a hypothetical socialist society when reading some of the posts made by me or Tweed or whoever is true leftist. Don't take them as literal policy suggestions since that sh**t is boring(although it's fun when some of our younger/newer posters do).
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« Reply #27 on: October 17, 2013, 01:19:51 PM »


Nah, Bandit supports The President.
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« Reply #28 on: October 17, 2013, 01:23:47 PM »

Is this the litmus test for true leftism now?
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« Reply #29 on: October 17, 2013, 01:44:52 PM »

Well obviously, I 'support the president' as well... I also run a small business (though without any employees).
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« Reply #30 on: October 17, 2013, 02:11:37 PM »

Plus RP's going ever closer to joining the True Leftist brigade.

I am honoured.
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« Reply #31 on: October 17, 2013, 02:52:13 PM »



Almost 3 minutes of crushing labor.
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« Reply #32 on: October 17, 2013, 02:56:42 PM »

I like how that applies to more than just you.
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« Reply #33 on: October 17, 2013, 04:23:40 PM »

What are we using as a working definition of "True Leftist," if I may ask? Are we talking about the poster adhering to views closest to those of a red anarchist, the most orthodox adherent here to Marxist-Leninism, the poster with views most compatible with the Old Labor flavor of 20th century, European democratic socialists, the person who is most radical in how their views differ from those well established in Western civilization, the one espousing the most egalitarian values, the poster most thoroughly championing self-determination of the individual free of oppression, or? Until we settle on how we are to measure and compare posters there can be no rational answer.

If I had to guess... maybe Tweed?
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« Reply #34 on: October 17, 2013, 10:13:53 PM »

What are we using as a working definition of "True Leftist," if I may ask? Are we talking about the poster adhering to views closest to those of a red anarchist, the most orthodox adherent here to Marxist-Leninism, the poster with views most compatible with the Old Labor flavor of 20th century, European democratic socialists, the person who is most radical in how their views differ from those well established in Western civilization, the one espousing the most egalitarian values, the poster most thoroughly championing self-determination of the individual free of oppression, or? Until we settle on how we are to measure and compare posters there can be no rational answer.

If I had to guess... maybe Tweed?


I think I'd fall into this category, but I'm not entirely sure. I do love all the nominations here, though. I feel like Snowstalker would be the obvious choice, however.
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« Reply #35 on: October 17, 2013, 11:17:27 PM »

Bandit.

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« Reply #36 on: October 18, 2013, 10:39:24 AM »

What are we using as a working definition of "True Leftist," if I may ask? Are we talking about the poster adhering to views closest to those of a red anarchist, the most orthodox adherent here to Marxist-Leninism, the poster with views most compatible with the Old Labor flavor of 20th century, European democratic socialists, the person who is most radical in how their views differ from those well established in Western civilization, the one espousing the most egalitarian values, the poster most thoroughly championing self-determination of the individual free of oppression, or? Until we settle on how we are to measure and compare posters there can be no rational answer.

If I had to guess... maybe Tweed?


I think of True Leftism as more of an attitude than an ideology- basically making a fetish out of leftism, viewing compromise as an inherently bad thing, thinking that "_____ can never fail, it can only be failed", possibly shading into dehumanization of your political opponents, basically being the mirror image of a Moderate Hero (who would stereotypically do much the same thing with the "center").  This is why Lief is, in fact, 100 percent right when he says:


The True Leftist thing to do is to excoriate Obama as a neoliberal sellout- someone with a -5.00 E score who does so is more of a True Leftist than a -10.00 who is willing to be pragmatic and accept the basic humanity of the "other side".  Not that refusing to supporting Obama from the left is the definition of a True Leftist, but that it's a sign of one.

As for who is the biggest True Leftist, I'll only say that it's not opebo or Tweed, both are sufficiently idiosyncratic as to defy categorization, and I don't really think opebo really belongs on the "left" in the first case. 
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« Reply #37 on: October 18, 2013, 10:44:25 AM »

opebo supports Obama.
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« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2013, 10:55:47 AM »

We can always resort to the definition of "leftism" that results of Lenin's "Left-Wing" Communism: An Infantile Disorder. See also the Two Methods Discourse between Guesde and Jaurès.
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« Reply #39 on: October 18, 2013, 02:22:46 PM »

TNF doesn't support Obama wtf
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« Reply #40 on: October 18, 2013, 02:28:13 PM »

Are you genuinely surprised?
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« Reply #41 on: October 18, 2013, 02:38:09 PM »

Yeah, does TNF have to sign off all posts with a ☭ for you to not assume he supports Obama? Tongue
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« Reply #42 on: October 18, 2013, 04:36:15 PM »

Yeah, does TNF have to sign off all posts with a ☭ for you to not assume he supports Obama? Tongue

Yes.
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« Reply #43 on: October 18, 2013, 09:37:18 PM »

Keystone Phil
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« Reply #44 on: October 20, 2013, 10:58:41 AM »

Oakvale or Hashemite.
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« Reply #45 on: October 20, 2013, 03:41:09 PM »


lolno
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« Reply #46 on: October 20, 2013, 08:32:35 PM »

In fact, Oakvale has heroically stood against True Leftism at every turn.
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« Reply #47 on: October 20, 2013, 08:34:31 PM »

And Hashpipe's political views are grounded in unrequited hatred of Stephen Harper.
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