Italian Elections and Politics 2018: Yellow Tide

[Senator Cris]

Rome mayor Ignazio Marino resigns, accused of spending taxpayer cash on dinner parties.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The accusations against Marino have always seemed fishy to me. It seems some PD bigwigs were always looking for an excuse to get rid of him. Sad to see him bow down to pressure.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

Rome mayor Ignazio Marino resigns, accused of spending taxpayer cash on dinner parties.

PD, che sorpresa

[SPQR]

The accusations against Marino have always seemed fishy to me. It seems some PD bigwigs were always looking for an excuse to get rid of him. Sad to see him bow down to pressure.

In the past,I agree.
This time,he messed up. It was impossible to go on with him as the "honest mayor fighting Roman corruption" when he had messed up (even though in a much lighter way than other politicians,of course).

Now obviously the same people who contributed to the downfall of Rome (Meloni = Alemanno) will benefit from all this. Pathetic.

[mappix]

On Wikipedia you can find the map of the new electoral constituencies as established by the decrees implementing the electoral law.

[Antonio the Sixth]

On Wikipedia you can find the map of the new electoral constituencies as established by the decrees implementing the electoral law.

That is AWESOME news! I was actually looking for it for a while.

What article exactly?

[mappix]

On Wikipedia you can find the map of the new electoral constituencies as established by the decrees implementing the electoral law.

That is AWESOME news! I was actually looking for it for a while.
What article exactly?

It's in the Italian section of Wikipedia: Legge elettorale italiana del 2015 (scroll down the page to see it).
Sorry, I am not allowed to include links at the moment otherwise I would have posted it.

[SPQR]

Nice job; the next step would be to give a more detailed breakdown of the constituencies in the big cities.

[Antonio the Sixth]

On Wikipedia you can find the map of the new electoral constituencies as established by the decrees implementing the electoral law.

That is AWESOME news! I was actually looking for it for a while.
What article exactly?

It's in the Italian section of Wikipedia: Legge elettorale italiana del 2015 (scroll down the page to see it).
Sorry, I am not allowed to include links at the moment otherwise I would have posted it.

Thank you very much!

And welcome to the forum, BTW.

[mappix]

Thank you very much!
And welcome to the forum, BTW.

Thanks!

Nice job; the next step would be to give a more detailed breakdown of the constituencies in the big cities.

If you are interested and have time you can check the Decreto Legislativo 7 agosto 2015, n. 122 on the Gazzetta Ufficiale website: it shows which old constituencies and municipalities form the new constituencies and there are maps of the old ones on the web (I found them on Google Images for cities like Milan and Turin).

[Nanwe]

One question, I checked through the legislative decree and did indeed see the constituencies but not the number of deputies per plurinominal constituency, are those yet to be assigned? Or was it decided in a different decree? 

[mappix]

One question, I checked through the legislative decree and did indeed see the constituencies but not the number of deputies per plurinominal constituency, are those yet to be assigned? Or was it decided in a different decree? 

I have yet to find it out, from what I have read the seats are assigned first by circumscription (= region) and then divided among the single constituencies according to the population (for those regions with more than one constituency). Each plurinominal constituency elects deputies from a minimum of 3 to a maximum of 9. The exceptions are the single-member constituencies in regions with linguistic minorities, Valle d'Aosta and Trentino Alto Adige.

These are the seats by circumscription, to be divided among their respective constituencies:

Piemonte                46
Valle d'Aosta              1
Lombardia             101
Trentino Alto Adige  11 (8 of which assigned with fptp + 3 with proportional bonus)
Veneto                    51
Friuli-Venezia Giulia 13
Liguria                    16
Emilia-Romagna      45
Toscana                  38
Umbria                     9
Marche                   16
Lazio                      57
Abruzzo                  14
Molise                       3
Campania               60
Puglia                     42
Basilicata                  6
Calabria                  20
Sicilia                      52
Sardegna                17
National Total        618

Abroad                     12
Total                      630

[Senator Cris]

Next mayoral elections (May 2016) are going to be very interesting: Rome, Milan, Naples, Turin, Cagliari, Bologna, Trieste.

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http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/10/13/us-italy-senate-idUSKCN0S722U20151013

Renzi scores a victory.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The Senate is a terrible, terrible institution so this is good news.

[Barnes]

The Senate is a terrible, terrible institution so this is good news.

As far as upper houses around the world go, it's one of the worst!

This is very good news.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Indeed. A great day for Italian democracy.

Now, only three more parliamentary passages, followed by a referendum, and then we'll have a governable country.

[Barnes]

Indeed. A great day for Italian democracy.

Now, only three more parliamentary passages, followed by a referendum, and then we'll have a governable country.

We're still talking about Italy, after all.

[SPQR]

And you'd never guess how many people are talking about how this is a "threat to democracy"...

[rob in cal]

   With the weakening of the power of the Senate envisioned by the changes, would this go some way toward making Italy what I call a de facto unicameral country?  Interesting that in the US discussions about abolition of the US senate, or significant limitations on its powers, aren't ever in the mainstream of public discourse.

[Diouf]

Sondaggio Demos Poll:

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-34591372

Northern League tries to win the NRa endorsement, or something?

Btw, can anyone explain to me the deal behind Brothers of Italy? What's their niche?

[SPQR]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-news-from-elsewhere-34591372

Northern League tries to win the NRa endorsement, or something?

Btw, can anyone explain to me the deal behind Brothers of Italy? What's their niche?

Fascists.
And people who are very rightwing but too nationalists to vote for Salvini,and who don't want to waste their vote on truly fascist parties such as Casapound or Forza Nuova.

[Antonio the Sixth]

In more objective terms, FdI is the ideological heir to Alleanza Nazionale, the nationalist-conservative party born from the reformation of the neofascist MSI under the leadership of Gianfranco Fini. Honestly, AN might be one of the only examples of a far-right party that genuinely reformed itself and abandoned its nastier elements (instead of the purely aesthetic changes you see most of the time in this kind of parties when they claim to have changed). By the early 2000s, Fini was a fairly reasonable right-winger and went out of his way to distance himself from racism and fascist nostalgia. Of course, not everyone in his party as so keen on abandoning the legacy, and the hardliners split to found various fringe parties, most of which eventually united under the banner La Destra (The Right), which only won 0.65% in 2013 and has since been irrelevant.

Meanwhile, Fini's AN merged with Berlusconi's FI to form the People of Freedom. However, by the last Berlusconi government Fini had become too moderate even for Berlusconi (interestingly, one of his main criticisms was also directed at the Lega's anti-immigrant stance). Fini was kicked out of the PdL and founded his own outfit, which crashed and burned in 2013 with a paltry 0.47%. Most of the former AN establishment, however, was still part of the PdL at the beginning of the Monti government. They eventually left in 2013, after Berlusconi announced his grand return and canceled the scheduled PdL primaries. Nowadays, their claim is to be the main nationalist voice in Italian politics, which entails a very anti-EU and to some extent anti-immigrant rhetoric (but not to Salvini's extent).

[SPQR]

While I mostly agree with your analysis on Alleanza Nazionale,it must be said that Fratelli d'Italia is a much more right-wing version of the AN seen in the last years.
Even poll-wise,it's clear that it is not nearly as popular as AN was,losing some "moderate" votes and some more radical ones who moved to Lega Nord,while attracting some neo-fascists who couldn't vote for Alleanza Nazionale because it had "sold out".