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« Reply #850 on: November 25, 2016, 04:22:59 PM »

The ecommunjst is q paper written n by slackjawed slopeheaded inbred public schol 20 soethings fresh out of getting spanked by thrr pervy master at Oxbridge so this Fralnkyl aijt no great surprise all thinga consisted by the standards of these stupid 'liveral bastard cints
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« Reply #851 on: November 25, 2016, 04:34:36 PM »

The ecommunjst is q paper written n by slackjawed slopeheaded inbred public schol 20 soethings fresh out of getting spanked by thrr pervy master at Oxbridge so this Fralnkyl aijt no great surprise all thinga consisted by the standards of these stupid 'liveral bastard cints

having a good evening Cass?
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« Reply #852 on: November 25, 2016, 04:54:58 PM »


Coalition threshold 20%, parties within coalition threshold 3%
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« Reply #853 on: November 25, 2016, 11:04:28 PM »

The ecommunjst is q paper written n by slackjawed slopeheaded inbred public schol 20 soethings fresh out of getting spanked by thrr pervy master at Oxbridge so this Fralnkyl aijt no great surprise all thinga consisted by the standards of these stupid 'liveral bastard cints

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« Reply #854 on: November 26, 2016, 01:44:54 PM »

The ecommunjst is q paper written n by slackjawed slopeheaded inbred public schol 20 soethings fresh out of getting spanked by thrr pervy master at Oxbridge so this Fralnkyl aijt no great surprise all thinga consisted by the standards of these stupid 'liveral bastard cints

having a good evening Cass?

It was a strong evening and night I'll say that much - nonetheless that particular... screed is not really all that far away from my view of the Economist magazine, aside from the 'Ecommunist' part (although that is certainly one of the best Berlusconisms)... and I say that as someone who's read the Economist on and off since he was about 12.
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« Reply #855 on: November 27, 2016, 03:24:48 AM »

italy is the only western country atm in which one establishment party wants to reshape something important and the populists - left and right - are winning the fight for the status quo.

Pretty much.
Which is one of the reasons why I hope the undecideds (which pollsters estimated to be around 20% of voters, so up to 7 million people) will eventually decide to vote Yes...
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« Reply #856 on: November 29, 2016, 06:54:14 PM »

What is the Beatrice Di Maio nonsense about? Yes, despite all the political implications of this ref, that is what I am interested in.
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« Reply #857 on: November 30, 2016, 09:18:05 AM »

What is the Beatrice Di Maio nonsense about? Yes, despite all the political implications of this ref, that is what I am interested in.

La Stampa, a Turin-based newspaper, came out with an article on a number of suspicious popular Twitter accounts. All were anti-Renzi, and each concentrated on some issue (immigrants and so on). According to some algorithm, it appeared that it was all part of some centrally-controlled system.
A few days later, Brunetta's wife (Brunetta is one of the leaders of Forza Italia) said that she was controlling one of those Twitter accounts.

All very grotesque.

BTW, yesterday BuzzFeed published an article on the Five Star Movement and the internet propaganda.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/albertonardelli/italys-most-popular-political-party-is-leading-europe-in-fak
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« Reply #858 on: December 03, 2016, 10:36:31 AM »

My prediction:

59.7% No
40.3% Yes

Turnout: 53.3%
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« Reply #859 on: December 03, 2016, 12:21:16 PM »
« Edited: December 03, 2016, 12:23:41 PM by rob in cal »

   Wow, that big of a margin would be a huge slap in the face for Renzi, with his resignation that much more likely.
    I wonder what the regional breakdown will be.  Possible narrow yes victory in Tuscany, Emilia Romagna, losses elsewhere, but where would the biggest no victory be?
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« Reply #860 on: December 03, 2016, 12:40:19 PM »

I think No will win by 2-3%.
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« Reply #861 on: December 03, 2016, 04:44:38 PM »

  Wow, that big of a margin would be a huge slap in the face for Renzi, with his resignation that much more likely.
    I wonder what the regional breakdown will be.  Possible narrow yes victory in Tuscany, Emilia Romagna, losses elsewhere, but where would the biggest no victory be?

Veneto
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« Reply #862 on: December 03, 2016, 07:52:14 PM »

I think No wins by 4%. 

Any links to results ?
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« Reply #863 on: December 03, 2016, 08:49:50 PM »

I think no wins by 8%
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« Reply #864 on: December 03, 2016, 08:56:20 PM »

that "no" is about to win handily proves, that the people don't want actual change, they want to hear that other people are to blame for their troubles.
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« Reply #865 on: December 03, 2016, 11:48:06 PM »

When will the first votes come in?
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« Reply #866 on: December 04, 2016, 03:36:06 AM »

   Wow, that big of a margin would be a huge slap in the face for Renzi, with his resignation that much more likely.
    I wonder what the regional breakdown will be.  Possible narrow yes victory in Tuscany, Emilia Romagna, losses elsewhere, but where would the biggest no victory be?

Veneto

No is really strong in the Southern regions.
This, coupled with the fact that young voters are also more likely to vote No (...) may actually be good news for the Yes, since they're both segments of the electorate with the lowest turnout.

Anyway, polls close at 11PM, and votes should be counted pretty quickly.
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« Reply #867 on: December 04, 2016, 07:40:19 AM »

Italian Constitutional Referendum Turnout at 12:00 (Table)
By Giovanni Salzano
(Bloomberg) -- Following is a table showing the turnout
for Italy’s costitutional referendum. This is the third
constitutional referendum held in Italy since World War II.
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Region                                     12:00          19:00          23:00
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Italy                                      20.1%
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  Piedmont                                 21.6%
  Valle d’Aosta                            22.3%
  Lombardy                                 23.9%
  Trentino-Alto Adige                      21.6%
  Veneto                                   24.0%
  Friuli-Venezia Giulia                    24.4%
  Liguria                                  23.7%
  Emilia-Romagna                           26.0%
  Tuscany                                  22.2%
  Umbria                                   19.7%
===============================================================================
Region                                     12:00          19:00          23:00
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  Marches                                  20.2%
  Latium                                   19.5%
  Abruzzo                                  18.3%
  Molise                                   16.7%
  Campania                                 15.1%
  Apulia                                   16.4%
  Basilicata                               14.5%
  Calabria                                 13.0%
  Sicily                                   13.5%
  Sardinia                                 18.8%
===============================================================================
Note: Turnout refers to voters in Italy only.

Source: Interior Ministry
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« Reply #868 on: December 04, 2016, 07:42:20 AM »

It seems voting will continue until 11PM Rome time.  Wow.  I guess that means we will not see exit polls until 5PM EST.   
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« Reply #869 on: December 04, 2016, 09:00:35 AM »

Turnout for voters not living in Italy was 40%, up from 30ish% at the last general elections.
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« Reply #870 on: December 04, 2016, 12:52:31 PM »

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« Reply #871 on: December 04, 2016, 01:03:52 PM »

This map doesn't look very good for the Yes side.
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« Reply #872 on: December 04, 2016, 01:17:05 PM »

So, if NO wins, should we be seeing a possible resignation announcement tonight?
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« Reply #873 on: December 04, 2016, 01:58:27 PM »

What am I looking at with that map?
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« Reply #874 on: December 04, 2016, 02:07:44 PM »

turnout.at noon?

isn't the south more hostile?
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