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Question: Which one of these options
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Progressive Tax
 
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Flat Tax
 
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Progressive Tax, but make it flatter and lower
 
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Abolish the IRS and pass FairTax legislation
 
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Abolish all taxes
 
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National Sales Tax
 
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Darth Plagueis
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« on: October 20, 2013, 08:30:58 PM »

Which one suits your views!?.

I support a 10% Flat Tax rate across the board. I would also be down with a Flat Tax/National Sales Tax.
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2013, 08:33:15 PM »

Progressive tax. Tax the top 1% at about 75-80%, 10-2% at 70%, 20-11% at 65% with middle class and lower income brackets not topping 30-40% taxation.
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« Reply #2 on: October 20, 2013, 08:51:52 PM »

Options 2 and 4 for me. Voted option 4, simplifying taxes is probably the best thing we can do right now.
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« Reply #3 on: October 20, 2013, 08:52:49 PM »

Other: Henry George-style land tax, plus a carbon tax.  Of the choices listed, though, a progressive income tax topping out at about 50% seems the best.
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« Reply #4 on: October 20, 2013, 08:55:49 PM »

Ideally, a Flat Tax.
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« Reply #5 on: October 20, 2013, 08:57:43 PM »

Other: Henry George-style land tax, plus a carbon tax.  Of the choices listed, though, a progressive income tax topping out at about 50% seems the best.

This is the correct answer.
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« Reply #6 on: October 20, 2013, 08:59:30 PM »

FairTax, although I could get behind a flat tax as well.
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« Reply #7 on: October 20, 2013, 10:11:00 PM »

Ideally, a flat tax; more realistically, probably just flattening the present progressive system. Voted flat, however.
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« Reply #8 on: October 20, 2013, 10:22:32 PM »

Progressive tax with the top rate at around 40 to 45%.
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« Reply #9 on: October 20, 2013, 10:58:20 PM »

Steeply progressive income tax with top rates approaching 100% plus a 100% tax on all inheritance.
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« Reply #10 on: October 21, 2013, 12:32:26 AM »

Other: Henry George-style land tax, plus a carbon tax.  Of the choices listed, though, a progressive income tax topping out at about 50% seems the best.

I am still undecided but like Train in the Distance's response quite a bit. I prefer the progressive income tax with the rate he provided but would probably also be happy with his favorite choice.
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« Reply #11 on: October 21, 2013, 01:39:57 AM »

I advocate a flat tax rate of 11.5% with exceptions of those in poverty being tax exempt. What this country also needs to do is eliminate the corporate tax which would bring jobs back from overseas.
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« Reply #12 on: October 21, 2013, 02:41:29 AM »

Steeply progressive income tax with top rates approaching 100% plus a 100% tax on all inheritance.

Please explain why?
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« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2013, 05:21:02 AM »

Steeply progressive income tax with top rates approaching 100% plus a 100% tax on all inheritance.

Please explain why?

Gubmint needs money to do good things for Murica
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« Reply #14 on: October 21, 2013, 06:43:50 AM »

Steeply progressive income tax with top rates approaching 100% plus a 100% tax on all inheritance.

Please explain why?

Redistribution of wealth from social parasites to the producers.
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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2013, 08:29:00 AM »

Guillotine the rich.
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« Reply #16 on: October 21, 2013, 01:12:13 PM »

Steeply progressive income tax with top rates approaching 100% plus a 100% tax on all inheritance.

Please explain why?

Redistribution of wealth from social parasites to the producers.

Money earned in the private sector should be your's to keep. One's income is based on what they can convince their employer they're worth. Are you saying you want the government to be powerful enough to take money from one person and give it to another more than they already do so?
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« Reply #17 on: October 21, 2013, 01:17:33 PM »

Redistribution of wealth from social parasites to the producers.

Money earned in the private sector should be your's to keep. One's income is based on what they can convince their employer they're worth. Are you saying you want the government to be powerful enough to take money from one person and give it to another more than they already do so?

barfbag, the capitalist government does precisely that - that is how you have you 'private property rights': privilege provided you by the State.
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« Reply #18 on: October 21, 2013, 01:51:38 PM »

Redistribution of wealth from social parasites to the producers.

Money earned in the private sector should be your's to keep. One's income is based on what they can convince their employer they're worth. Are you saying you want the government to be powerful enough to take money from one person and give it to another more than they already do so?

barfbag, the capitalist government does precisely that - that is how you have you 'private property rights': privilege provided you by the State.

More than they already do? It's not a privilege given by anyone, but was fought for in the Revolutionary War. If something is your's then it's your's. Private property goes along with being a free nation.
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« Reply #19 on: October 21, 2013, 02:35:27 PM »

It's not a privilege given by anyone, but was fought for in the Revolutionary War. If something is your's then it's your's. Private property goes along with being a free nation.

No, I believe precisely the opposite.
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« Reply #20 on: October 21, 2013, 02:38:07 PM »

Redistribution of wealth from social parasites to the producers.

Money earned in the private sector should be your's to keep. One's income is based on what they can convince their employer they're worth. Are you saying you want the government to be powerful enough to take money from one person and give it to another more than they already do so?

barfbag, the capitalist government does precisely that - that is how you have you 'private property rights': privilege provided you by the State.

More than they already do? It's not a privilege given by anyone, but was fought for in the Revolutionary War. If something is your's then it's your's. Private property goes along with being a free nation.

There's a reason that the Declaration omits property as one of the reasons the U.S. was declaring independence and the Constitution does not. Using 'property' would have meant little to no support from the producing classes. Property rights followed the revolution, the revolution did not happen to ensure property rights. It was a revolution against special rights that were granted (titles of nobility, monopolies) on account of class position by the British crown.
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« Reply #21 on: October 21, 2013, 04:29:13 PM »

I find it funny that I am more socialistic on taxation than TNF is.
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« Reply #22 on: October 21, 2013, 05:00:50 PM »

In short, a progressive tax code with a top rate of 30% for Millionaires. Cutting most, if not all, deductions and eliminating legal loopholes for corporations. Some middle class deductions and some lower class deductions will be eliminated too, but some will be kept. Cutting corporate taxes, estate taxes, inheritance taxes.
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« Reply #23 on: October 21, 2013, 07:02:06 PM »
« Edited: October 21, 2013, 07:06:50 PM by Redalgo »

I find it funny that I am more socialistic on taxation than TNF is.

Respectfully, I must protest to this.

What makes a tax code more or less socialistic than another? In a well-designed socialist system there should be no need for taxation to serve as a redistributive engine because producers shall already be compensated fairly in the first place. Though taxation based on marginal utility or ones ability to pay demands progressive rates, who is to say how high or low those rates should be, objectively, from a socialist perspective? Likewise, the transition to socialism does not demand any particular set of tax rates. There are other ways to attack the foundations of inter-class inequality.

There are many ways to traverse the road to socialism.
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« Reply #24 on: October 21, 2013, 07:14:20 PM »

Fine, I'm more radical (to some extent) on taxation than TNF is Tongue
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