NC 2016 Gubernatorial Discussion Thread

[Miles]

The NBA is pulling the 2017 All Star game from Charlotte over HB2. Bad news for McCrory, as this is one of the most high profile instances of HB2 hurting the state's business.

[Miles]

As if McCrory needs any more bad press from this, the NCAA is pulling its championship games from NC, citing HB2.

The NC GOP's response is something else:

[Brewer]

As if McCrory needs any more bad press from this, the NCAA is pulling its championship games from NC, citing HB2.

The NC GOP's response is something else:

Good lord...

[The Other Castro]

Congrats, Governor Cooper.

[Xing]

Dang, Prejudiced Pat is really starting to look like he's done for.

[Maxwell]

As if McCrory needs any more bad press from this, the NCAA is pulling its championship games from NC, citing HB2.

The NC GOP's response is something else:

so is the NC GOP just intent on burying McCrory right then and there?

[Miles]

The ACC is following the NCAA in pulling championship games from NC.

State Sen. Tamara Barringer is the first Republican calling for HB2's repeal. She represents a slightly R-leaning (52% Romney) seat in suburban Wake County, so exactly the type of area where McCrory is set to crater in.

[Miles]

Oh look, McCrory is digging in deeper with his defense of HB2:

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This is your Eisenhower Republican, folks.

[Heisenberg]

Oh look, McCrory is digging in deeper with his defense of HB2:

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This is your Eisenhower Republican, folks.

As I've stated, I don't think he moved to the right, but the country moved WAY to the left on transgender issues since 1995 (when he first took office as mayor).

[windjammer]

Mccrory is so utterly incompetent that he could lose even in a 2014 environement lol

[Suburbia]

I'm not a fan of the bathroom issue, I don't like the issue, but McCrory is in trouble. It's a tossup situation.

[Miles]

^ For me, whats worse is the overreach - its another example of the R legislature trying to control the D cities.

[Miles]

McCrory open to repealing HB2, if Charlotte drops its LGBT protection ordinance:

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What a mess.

[pppolitics]

PPP shows Pat going down the drain!

[Heisenberg]

PPP also had Forest up by 3, but Democrats led the other two top row office races, Stein leads Newton by 4 for AG, and Blue leads Fowell by one for treasurer. I really hope Newton can somehow pull off an upset. I'm not really a fan of him, but I'd like to see Stein defeated because if he wins he'll be a strong member of the NC Democratic bench.

[Miles]

^ Stein has massively outraised Newton. As Newton was one of HB2's biggest advocates, Stein has made that an issue. calling it "Buck's Bill."

Stein's narrow 6% primary victory over a some dude was a bit worrying to me, but he's since resigned from the legislature to campaign full time.

I think NC and MS are the only southern states that haven't elected Republican AG's since Reconstruction.

[Heisenberg]

^ Stein has massively outraised Newton. As Newton was one of HB2's biggest advocates, Stein has made that an issue. calling it "Buck's Bill."

Stein's narrow 6% primary victory over a some dude was a bit worrying to me, but he's since resigned from the legislature to campaign full time.

I think NC and MS are the only southern states that haven't elected Republican AG's since Reconstruction.

NC never has elected a GOP AG since Reconstruction, although I'm pretty sure they did have (an unelected) one for two years (a Jim Martin appointee, who lost election for a full term). That makes Mississippi the only former Confederate state to never have a Republican AG since Reconstruction, period. I do anticipate the GOP to pick up the MS AG spot when Hood vacates it.

North Carolina seems to have become pretty polarized. Newton has been performing poorly as he has been tied to the bill. Stein represents the new, progressive urban North Carolina (hailing from Raleigh), while Newton represents the old conservative North Carolina. If Stein wins, he likely becomes Governor in 2024, or Senator in 2022 (I called it), which I hope doesn't happen. I'm no SJW or trans activist, but HB2 was a big mistake for business perspective. The national GOP needs to rush to defend NC (and GA), both are definitely savable and crucial to a presidential victory.

[Attorney General, LGC Speaker, and Former PPT Dwarven Dragon]

I have sympathies with some parts of HB2, but passing it in an election year was a terrible strategy for republicans. (My endorsement was with Cooper before HB2. McCrory is a blind partisan who needs to GTFO.)

[Heisenberg]

I have sympathies with some parts of HB2, but passing it in an election year was a terrible strategy for republicans. (My endorsement was with Cooper before HB2. McCrory is a blind partisan who needs to GTFO.)

I do have some respect for Cooper, he has been pretty popular and even ran unopposed in 2012 (I wonder who would have won a Cooper vs. McCrory race that year). McCrory was a great Charlotte mayor, and IMO has been a decent (but not exceptional) governor (he has moved a little to the right, but since his years as mayor, people as a whole have moved way left on LGBT issues and things have gotten more polarized and partisan). Yes, I do have sympathies with the religious right (and I think the left is going a bit too far), but the North Carolina Republicans were not smart and screwed things up with the timing, and now it looks like it will sting their party. They certainly should NOT have passed HB2 at that time. They should have either done it in 2014/15 (hoping it would die out by the 2016 election), or taken a gamble and waited until after the election.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Bathroom Boy has put out a State of Emergency tonight for what's happening in Charlotte.

Can't wait to see how this plays out.

[Sorenroy]

^ For me, whats worse is the overreach - its another example of the R legislature trying to control the D cities.

True that. I find it highly ironic that McCrory somehow thinks that his Republican view of "strong local government" goes no further than the state's rights.

[Sorenroy]

As if McCrory needs any more bad press from this, the NCAA is pulling its championship games from NC, citing HB2.

The NC GOP's response is something else:

What's even worse is the response from the state senator whose district hosts the NCAA:

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So basically, she still believes that girls will be preyed upon by older men or boys, but she's willing to overlook that because she's up for reelection.

(there's probably a better thread to put this, but I couldn't find where that would be)

[Figueira]

If only the Republicans had chosen a more politically convenient time to screw over trans people.

[Miles]

An Attorney General debate from earlier this week.

[pppolitics]

What (realistic) question should I ask Cooper or McCrory in the debate on Friday?

I'll be there.

Governor, HB2 has cost the state $400 millions dollars and thousands of jobs so far.

In 2012, you ran on an economic platform, yet why do you believe that it is appropriate to pass a law that has done much economic harm to the state?