Thorough List of Employers Cutting Hours (and Jobs) Due to Obamacare

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

I found this, and it's pretty interesting to see how both private and public employers are reacting to the employer mandate.  Even Democrat-favorable counties are on the list.

http://news.investors.com/politics-obamacare/101813-669013-obamacare-employer-mandate-a-list-of-cuts-to-work-hours-jobs.htm

[publicunofficial]

Hmm, on one hand Kentucky had 2,989 families insured under the ACA in it's first day. On the other hand Joe Bologna's Italian Pizzeria & Restaurant is now closed on Mondays.


Complete disaster, job-killer, thanks Obama.

[DC Al Fine]

It's interesting how a large % of the cutters are government. Virginia seems to be one of the worst offenders there.

[TNF]

the obvious response to this would be reduce the length of the work week so that it matches up with the Obamacare mandate

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Hmm, on one hand Kentucky had 2,989 families insured under the ACA in it's first day. On the other hand Joe Bologna's Italian Pizzeria & Restaurant is now closed on Mondays.


Complete disaster, job-killer, thanks Obama.

Cutting hours for employees doesn't necessarily mean cutting hours of being open.  It hurts employees (like myself) without affecting the business much.

the obvious response to this would be reduce the length of the work week so that it matches up with the Obamacare mandate

And the obvious response from businesses would be to cut hours even more.

[publicunofficial]

It's interesting how a large % of the cutters are government. Virginia seems to be one of the worst offenders there.

How much you want to bet it's Republican county commissioners, Republican mayors, Republican city councils, ect.?

[TNF]

Hmm, on one hand Kentucky had 2,989 families insured under the ACA in it's first day. On the other hand Joe Bologna's Italian Pizzeria & Restaurant is now closed on Mondays.


Complete disaster, job-killer, thanks Obama.

Cutting hours for employees doesn't necessarily mean cutting hours of being open.  It hurts employees (like myself) without affecting the business much.

the obvious response to this would be reduce the length of the work week so that it matches up with the Obamacare mandate

And the obvious response from businesses would be to cut hours even more.

so stimulate the economy? they won't be able to help themselves if the option is making more money.

[DC Al Fine]

It's interesting how a large % of the cutters are government. Virginia seems to be one of the worst offenders there.

How much you want to bet it's Republican county commissioners, Republican mayors, Republican city councils, ect.?

I meant various departments in the Virginian government. About 5000 jobs will be affected by their cuts altogether. There;s also a solid contingent of universities.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

It's interesting how a large % of the cutters are government. Virginia seems to be one of the worst offenders there.

How much you want to bet it's Republican county commissioners, Republican mayors, Republican city councils, ect.?

My county is making cuts and we're a GOP county council/commissioners, city council with a Democrat Mayor.

[Badger]

It's interesting how a large % of the cutters are government. Virginia seems to be one of the worst offenders there.

How much you want to bet it's Republican county commissioners, Republican mayors, Republican city councils, ect.?

My county is making cuts and we're a GOP county council/commissioners, city council with a Democrat Mayor.

Then, your Democrat mayor really isn't involved in the county budget cuts, is he/she?

Not really opining on the subject here; it's just obvious facepalm statements annoy me.

[7,052,770]

The vast majority of businesses claiming to cut hours because of Obamacare are just using it as a convenient scapegoat.  Remember, the Employer Mandate applies only to businesses of more than 50 employees (95% of which already meet the mandate) and doesn't go into effect until January 2015.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Minnesota was on the list 3 times... all public employers.  One affects 20 employees, another affects 4, and the other is not specified (City of Mankato).

The policies were either rescinded or delayed indefinitely due to employer mandate delay.

But then companies in Minnesota tend not to be vindictive like they apparently are elsewhere.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Not to state the obvious, but all considered, it is far more expensive for a business to hire and maintain two 20-hour-per-week part-time workers than one 40-hour-per-week full-time worker. The big retailers who went all out cutting hours during the recession are scrambling to course correct after sales started to fall significantly.

[DC Al Fine]

Not to state the obvious, but all considered, it is far more expensive for a business to hire and maintain two 20-hour-per-week part-time workers than one 40-hour-per-week full-time worker. The big retailers who went all out cutting hours during the recession are scrambling to course correct after sales started to fall significantly.

What makes it more expensive?

[pbrower2a]

Not to state the obvious, but all considered, it is far more expensive for a business to hire and maintain two 20-hour-per-week part-time workers than one 40-hour-per-week full-time worker. The big retailers who went all out cutting hours during the recession are scrambling to course correct after sales started to fall significantly.

What makes it more expensive?

Warm-up and close-down times.

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

Not to state the obvious, but all considered, it is far more expensive for a business to hire and maintain two 20-hour-per-week part-time workers than one 40-hour-per-week full-time worker. The big retailers who went all out cutting hours during the recession are scrambling to course correct after sales started to fall significantly.

What makes it more expensive?

For starters, hiring costs. The simple act of hiring an employee is surprisingly expensive when you consider your total costs. People need to take time to interview. An HR person needs to invest time in sifting through resumes or applications. Training needs to happen. There are greater bookkeeping needs when dealing with two people as opposed to one (filing taxes, cutting payroll, etc.).

Further, there are greater communications and supervisory needs for multiple part-time employees. A part-time employee gains, by definition, half the experience of a full-time employee. A part-time employee cares less. A less-experienced employee has lower productivity, makes more mistakes, and works slower. A greater part of a part-time employee's time, by percentage, is spend setting up and breaking down before quitting time.

Ultimately, building a business with part-time workers is the equivalent of making a home repair with duct tape. Penny wise, pound foolish.

[tik 🪀✨]

Excellent news. Now, legislature that part time workers get 25% more than the base wage for a full time worker.

[Stranger in a strange land]

It's interesting how a large % of the cutters are government. Virginia seems to be one of the worst offenders there.

How much of that do you think is Republican governors, state legislatures, and local officials grandstanding against Obamacare?

[opebo]

Unimportant detail.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Hmm, on one hand Kentucky had 2,989 families insured under the ACA in it's first day. On the other hand Joe Bologna's Italian Pizzeria & Restaurant is now closed on Mondays.


Complete disaster, job-killer, thanks Obama.

Cutting hours for employees doesn't necessarily mean cutting hours of being open.  It hurts employees (like myself) without affecting the business much.

the obvious response to this would be reduce the length of the work week so that it matches up with the Obamacare mandate

And the obvious response from businesses would be to cut hours even more.

so stimulate the economy? they won't be able to help themselves if the option is making more money.

You would have to have an unemployment rate close to 0% for that to work.  As long as businesses have the option of cutting hours and making up for it by hiring more workers, that's the easy thing to do.

Not to state the obvious, but all considered, it is far more expensive for a business to hire and maintain two 20-hour-per-week part-time workers than one 40-hour-per-week full-time worker. The big retailers who went all out cutting hours during the recession are scrambling to course correct after sales started to fall significantly.

That depends on the industry and what all costs the employer is putting into hiring the second employee.  Plus, businesses don't always have a habit of spending more today to save money in the future.

And while your argument is relevant for those who are hiring full-time workers, it doesn't translate to companies who are simply hiring more part-time workers to make up for cutting the hours of other part-time workers.

[Gass3268]

LA Times says that the data shows that this idea that Obamacare is resulting in more part-times works is a myth.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacare-20131022,0,5237220.story

[Likely Voter]

...and this liberal rag also says this meme is a myth

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2013/10/22/dont-blame-health-law-for-high-part-time-employment/

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

LA Times says that the data shows that this idea that Obamacare is resulting in more part-times works is a myth.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacare-20131022,0,5237220.story

Whether or not Obamacare is resulting in a net-increase in part-time work isn't something I alleged (and it's hard to prove in an economy as fluid as the U.S.'s right now), but it's undisputed that there are employers cutting hours because of Obamacare.

[7,052,770]

LA Times says that the data shows that this idea that Obamacare is resulting in more part-times works is a myth.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacare-20131022,0,5237220.story

Whether or not Obamacare is resulting in a net-increase in part-time work isn't something I alleged (and it's hard to prove in an economy as fluid as the U.S.'s right now), but it's undisputed that there are employers cutting hours because of Obamacare.

Actually, it's undisputed that employers are cutting hours and blaming it on Obamacare.

Even though it's 2013, and the individual mandate (which only applies to large employers, 95% of which already meet it) doesn't go in effect in 2015.

[Amenhotep Bakari-Sellers]

When there was no pivot by the GOP congress or the prez, and focus was in Syria, deficit and budget, we have a lackluster job report, lack of hiring after holidays will especially be blamed on healthcare.