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Queen Mum Inks.LWC
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« on: October 21, 2013, 11:44:31 AM »

I found this, and it's pretty interesting to see how both private and public employers are reacting to the employer mandate.  Even Democrat-favorable counties are on the list.

http://news.investors.com/politics-obamacare/101813-669013-obamacare-employer-mandate-a-list-of-cuts-to-work-hours-jobs.htm
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« Reply #1 on: October 21, 2013, 03:54:25 PM »

Hmm, on one hand Kentucky had 2,989 families insured under the ACA in it's first day. On the other hand Joe Bologna's Italian Pizzeria & Restaurant is now closed on Mondays.


Complete disaster, job-killer, thanks Obama.

Cutting hours for employees doesn't necessarily mean cutting hours of being open.  It hurts employees (like myself) without affecting the business much.

the obvious response to this would be reduce the length of the work week so that it matches up with the Obamacare mandate

And the obvious response from businesses would be to cut hours even more.
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2013, 02:44:58 PM »

Hmm, on one hand Kentucky had 2,989 families insured under the ACA in it's first day. On the other hand Joe Bologna's Italian Pizzeria & Restaurant is now closed on Mondays.


Complete disaster, job-killer, thanks Obama.

Cutting hours for employees doesn't necessarily mean cutting hours of being open.  It hurts employees (like myself) without affecting the business much.

the obvious response to this would be reduce the length of the work week so that it matches up with the Obamacare mandate

And the obvious response from businesses would be to cut hours even more.

so stimulate the economy? they won't be able to help themselves if the option is making more money.

You would have to have an unemployment rate close to 0% for that to work.  As long as businesses have the option of cutting hours and making up for it by hiring more workers, that's the easy thing to do.

Not to state the obvious, but all considered, it is far more expensive for a business to hire and maintain two 20-hour-per-week part-time workers than one 40-hour-per-week full-time worker. The big retailers who went all out cutting hours during the recession are scrambling to course correct after sales started to fall significantly.

That depends on the industry and what all costs the employer is putting into hiring the second employee.  Plus, businesses don't always have a habit of spending more today to save money in the future.

And while your argument is relevant for those who are hiring full-time workers, it doesn't translate to companies who are simply hiring more part-time workers to make up for cutting the hours of other part-time workers.
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2013, 10:12:44 PM »

LA Times says that the data shows that this idea that Obamacare is resulting in more part-times works is a myth.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacare-20131022,0,5237220.story

Whether or not Obamacare is resulting in a net-increase in part-time work isn't something I alleged (and it's hard to prove in an economy as fluid as the U.S.'s right now), but it's undisputed that there are employers cutting hours because of Obamacare.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2013, 11:12:01 AM »

LA Times says that the data shows that this idea that Obamacare is resulting in more part-times works is a myth.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacare-20131022,0,5237220.story

Whether or not Obamacare is resulting in a net-increase in part-time work isn't something I alleged (and it's hard to prove in an economy as fluid as the U.S.'s right now), but it's undisputed that there are employers cutting hours because of Obamacare.

Actually it is disputed, in that article by the LA Times and the article from the Wall Street Journal. Employers cutting hours because of Obamacare is a right wing talking point myth because we now have facts and data instead of just random anecdotes dug up by the likes of Sean Hannity.


My employer cut our hours for that reason.  It's not just some random anecdote.
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2013, 11:46:36 AM »

LA Times says that the data shows that this idea that Obamacare is resulting in more part-times works is a myth.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacare-20131022,0,5237220.story

Whether or not Obamacare is resulting in a net-increase in part-time work isn't something I alleged (and it's hard to prove in an economy as fluid as the U.S.'s right now), but it's undisputed that there are employers cutting hours because of Obamacare.

Actually it is disputed, in that article by the LA Times and the article from the Wall Street Journal. Employers cutting hours because of Obamacare is a right wing talking point myth because we now have facts and data instead of just random anecdotes dug up by the likes of Sean Hannity.


My employer cut our hours for that reason.  It's not just some random anecdote.

Good thing the data shows that is being offset by more employers that are doing the opposite.

Good unless you're one of the people who went from 36 hours a week to 28.  **Raises hand**
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« Reply #6 on: October 23, 2013, 04:46:03 PM »

LA Times says that the data shows that this idea that Obamacare is resulting in more part-times works is a myth.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacare-20131022,0,5237220.story

Whether or not Obamacare is resulting in a net-increase in part-time work isn't something I alleged (and it's hard to prove in an economy as fluid as the U.S.'s right now), but it's undisputed that there are employers cutting hours because of Obamacare.

Actually it is disputed, in that article by the LA Times and the article from the Wall Street Journal. Employers cutting hours because of Obamacare is a right wing talking point myth because we now have facts and data instead of just random anecdotes dug up by the likes of Sean Hannity.


My employer cut our hours for that reason.  It's not just some random anecdote.

You work for one of the 5% of large employers that doesn't provide health insurance?  And instead of providing it,  your employer is just going to cut everyone's hours? I'm sorry for you, but your employer sounds like a dick.

More importantly,  ytf is your employer cutting hours now to comply with a rule that doesn't go into effect for more than 14 months?  Sounds like your employer is cutting hours for his own profit and just blaming it on Obamacare.

Yeah, thiinking about it more it sounds like an excuse.

But overall hours worked haven't decreased.

LA Times says that the data shows that this idea that Obamacare is resulting in more part-times works is a myth.

http://www.latimes.com/business/hiltzik/la-fi-mh-obamacare-20131022,0,5237220.story

Whether or not Obamacare is resulting in a net-increase in part-time work isn't something I alleged (and it's hard to prove in an economy as fluid as the U.S.'s right now), but it's undisputed that there are employers cutting hours because of Obamacare.

How can you say it is "undisputed"?  I have heard this disputed endlessly.

I mean... you can dispute it, but I've given you an objective first-hand example.  If someone's going to dispute that, they're ignoring facts.
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