SENATE BILL: Education for the Future Bill 2013 (Law'd)

[President Tyrion]

I think I back Spiral and Tyrion on this (though I don't agree with Spiral on Calculus, but that's because I'm a former Math Major), Stat is something that is pretty important to your future, and an earlier start, the better.

I think calculus is important conceptually, as well, but I'm not ready to make that required just yet. Derivatives and rate of change are important to understand. Some of calculus may not be relevant to the layperson, though. We need to shore up math education before we increase requirements by leaps and bounds, in any case.

[Napoleon]

nay

[tmthforu94]

With all due respect, Tyrion, regardless of what you might personally think, statistics is already covered under mathematics. I'm looking at my own university now, and all stats classes are listed under the Math department. Regardless of my opinion on statistics being a requirement, this amendment just isn't necessary.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Amendment 57:63 by Tmth:

Aye (3): NC Yankee, TJ in Cleve (successor changed vote), Tmthforu94 and TyriontheImperialist
Nay (5): bore, Gass3268, Maxwell, Spiral (changed vote of predecessor) and TNF
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (2): Napoleon (too late), sbane (successor voted) and Xahar

Time has expired, Matt you can declare this amendment rejected.

[Sopranos Republican]

By a vote of 3-5, with 2 not voting, the amendment has failed. Debate continues.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[President Tyrion]

With all due respect, Tyrion, regardless of what you might personally think, statistics is already covered under mathematics. I'm looking at my own university now, and all stats classes are listed under the Math department. Regardless of my opinion on statistics being a requirement, this amendment just isn't necessary.

My university, for the record, keeps Stat as a separate department, and I'm frankly worried that any institution would consider stats and math the same thing.

A quick search tells me that all of the top 10 universities, except Caltech, according to USNews have a separate department for stats, and Caltech has quite a few devoted courses. I think your university (and part of the country) might be the exception, not the rule. (Plus, I'm a stats major, so my university obviously has such a department, too)

In any case, I would disagree rather vehemently that "Statistics" would be covered under the present definition of mathematics.

[tmthforu94]

I withdraw my objection, though I still believe this all would be better handled at the regional level.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Without sponsor feedback though, it doesn't make much difference in terms of preventing a vote though.

Speaking of which..... Where is that damn vote?

[Sopranos Republican]

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Amendment Author: Tyrion

A vote on the above amendment is now open.

[TNF]

Aye

[PPT Spiral]

Aye

[President Tyrion]

Aye

[Maxwell]

Aye. I'm still not sure whether I want this whole package or not, but this is a positive change.

[tmthforu94]

Abstain

[bore]

Aye

[Хahar 🤔]

Yea

[Napoleon]

nay

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye suppose so


Matt this vote can be stopped now.

[Sopranos Republican]

By a vote of 7-1-1, with one not voting, the amendment has been adopted.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

What is next here?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If nothing more is to be done, I shall be opening a vote before I go offline.

[TNF]

I'd say we should open a final vote and move on to the next piece of legislation in the queue.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Senators a Final Vote is now open on the legislation, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.