Republican Perception of the Obama Years, Could it Change?

[Mechaman]

The other day, I don't remember who it was, but somebody mentioned that in about twenty years or so that Obama might be remembered more fondly by "True Left" types.  However, I remember being around when Bill Clinton was President and everyone I knew thought he was an out and out socialist who wanted to take over America and would ban guns, yada yada yada.  Whenever Obama got into office my folks openly bemoaned that they wish Clinton was President, or "I can't believe it, but I miss Clinton" yada yada yada.

Which brings me to the obvious question: Is there a possibility that in the future Republicans will remember Barack Satan Hussein Obama fondly like they do Clinton?  Will history run in such a way that when the next socialist commie Democrat gets elected, right wingers and whatever equivalent of "Tea Partiers" there are out in the future will look upon Obama as "a reasonable Democrat"?

Before anyone says "no, because he's a black" I'm referring to at least eight years in the future when youngs will grow older and what not.  I certainly think this is not only possible, but will happen. . . . especially when America gets more left wing (sorry guys, it's going to happen).  And I will laugh, pretty hard, when the first thing that many GOPhers will mention about what made Obama so reasonable is the Affordable Care Act.

Any other opinions on this?

[TNF]

Well the guy has basically governed as a Republican, so I don't see why not. I mean, what with all the extra-judicial murders going on abroad, the ever growing surveillance state, tearing up UAW contracts, pushing for charter schools and going after teachers, and with the rich now owning even more of the country's wealth, I'd say that Obama will be remembered very fondly as the Democrat who did most of the Republicans' dirty work.

[Vosem]

Considering state governments are mostly controlled by Republicans, it could very well be the case, but I doubt perception of Obama himself will change soon.

[Frodo]

Republicans view/demonize Barack Obama in ways not dissimilar to how Democrats viewed/demonized Richard Nixon during his presidency.  It is only in retrospect that we see just how moderate Nixon really was -if we ignore Watergate.  And I think Republicans in years and decades to come will reach the same conclusion with regard to Barack Obama after he leaves office.  

[memphis]

The Repiblican worldview is very strongly predicated on a perception of a mythic past in contrast to a severely problematic present. While they most likely still won't like him, the vitriol will ease somewhat. This is the case with all Dem presidents.

[opebo]

Well the guy has basically governed as a Republican, so I don't see why not. I mean, what with all the extra-judicial murders going on abroad, the ever growing surveillance state, tearing up UAW contracts, pushing for charter schools and going after teachers, and with the rich now owning even more of the country's wealth, I'd say that Obama will be remembered very fondly as the Democrat who did most of the Republicans' dirty work.

All Democratic presidents are like that TNF.  You and I can see that it is a center-right party, but the Republicans can't see that because they have mental problems.

[Indy Texas]

Perhaps if, (1) a Democratic president considerably to the left of Obama is elected and wants to do things like scrap the ACA and do single-payer or dramatically raise tax rates on high-income payers; and (2) the Republican base becomes even more right-wing and radicalized than it is now.

Maybe we'll be in some dystopic future reality where Louie Gohmert is getting primaried from his right for supporting government funding of roads and the military while his "true conservative" opponent believes all roads should be privately owned and require tolls to drive on and that we should eliminate the DoD and have private mercenary armies that people pay a flat fee to be protected by.

[Mehmentum]

Almost inevitably.

[ElectionsGuy]

Obama will probably be viewed somewhat similar to Clinton within 20 years. Since the republicans pretty much treated Clinton the same as they do with Obama now.

[publicunofficial]

"I can't believe President Democrat did X, at least when Obama was in office he didn't stoop to that level!"

[TJ in Oregon]

"I can't believe President Democrat did X, at least when Obama was in office he didn't stoop to that level!"

Yep, the next president will probably be worse and Obama will look good by comparison.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Duh.

[Lief 🗽]

No; his skin will always be black.

[Representative Joe Mad]

Perhaps if, (1) a Democratic president considerably to the left of Obama is elected and wants to do things like scrap the ACA and do single-payer or dramatically raise tax rates on high-income payers; and (2) the Republican base becomes even more right-wing and radicalized than it is now.

Maybe we'll be in some dystopic future reality where Louie Gohmert is getting primaried from his right for supporting government funding of roads and the military while his "true conservative" opponent believes all roads should be privately owned and require tolls to drive on and that we should eliminate the DoD and have private mercenary armies that people pay a flat fee to be protected by.

Dear god no.  That sounds terrifying.

[H. Ross Peron]

Yes, once the Democrats become shift to the left to become a fully social liberal/left Christian Democratic party with a strong social democratic component and advocating a social market economy and the Republicans basically become an European liberal or the other Anglophone conservative parties.

[Lurker]

Yes, once the Democrats become shift to the left to become a fully social liberal/left Christian Democratic party with a strong social democratic component and advocating a social market economy and the Republicans basically become an European liberal or the other Anglophone conservative parties.

There is no chance whatsoever of that happening within the next few decades. So even if it were to ever happen, which I doubt, it wouldn't really affect their opinion of Obama.

[H. Ross Peron]

Yes, once the Democrats become shift to the left to become a fully social liberal/left Christian Democratic party with a strong social democratic component and advocating a social market economy and the Republicans basically become an European liberal or the other Anglophone conservative parties.

There is no chance whatsoever of that happening within the next few decades. So even if it were to ever happen, which I doubt, it wouldn't really affect their opinion of Obama.

Why not? This wouldn't involve all that much ideological evolution beyond accepting Obamacare and more diversity of positions on social issues.

[hopper]

Well the guy has basically governed as a Republican, so I don't see why not. I mean, what with all the extra-judicial murders going on abroad, the ever growing surveillance state, tearing up UAW contracts, pushing for charter schools and going after teachers, and with the rich now owning even more of the country's wealth, I'd say that Obama will be remembered very fondly as the Democrat who did most of the Republicans' dirty work.

I agree with 2 of the 3 things that I have in bold but charter schools are bad?

Since you say he has governed as a Republican I am just gonna throw these 2 things out there: What Republican would put big regulations on the coal industry that he has? What Republican supports a millionares or a maximum 30% tax on millionares regardless if it nets less revenue from capital gains?

[hopper]

The other day, I don't remember who it was, but somebody mentioned that in about twenty years or so that Obama might be remembered more fondly by "True Left" types.  However, I remember being around when Bill Clinton was President and everyone I knew thought he was an out and out socialist who wanted to take over America and would ban guns, yada yada yada.  Whenever Obama got into office my folks openly bemoaned that they wish Clinton was President, or "I can't believe it, but I miss Clinton" yada yada yada.

Which brings me to the obvious question: Is there a possibility that in the future Republicans will remember Barack Satan Hussein Obama fondly like they do Clinton?  Will history run in such a way that when the next socialist commie Democrat gets elected, right wingers and whatever equivalent of "Tea Partiers" there are out in the future will look upon Obama as "a reasonable Democrat"?

Before anyone says "no, because he's a black" I'm referring to at least eight years in the future when youngs will grow older and what not.  I certainly think this is not only possible, but will happen. . . . especially when America gets more left wing (sorry guys, it's going to happen).  And I will laugh, pretty hard, when the first thing that many GOPhers will mention about what made Obama so reasonable is the Affordable Care Act.

Any other opinions on this?

I had to laugh about Clinton banning guns thing and that he was a socialist.

No Republicans will look at Obama like Jimmy Carter or Richard Nixon 20 years from now.

[DC Al Fine]

Well the guy has basically governed as a Republican, so I don't see why not. I mean, what with all the extra-judicial murders going on abroad, the ever growing surveillance state, tearing up UAW contracts, pushing for charter schools and going after teachers, and with the rich now owning even more of the country's wealth, I'd say that Obama will be remembered very fondly as the Democrat who did most of the Republicans' dirty work.

I agree with 2 of the 3 things that I have in bold but charter schools are bad?

Since you say he has governed as a Republican I am just gonna throw these 2 things out there: What Republican would put big regulations on the coal industry that he has? What Republican supports a millionares or a maximum 30% tax on millionares regardless if it nets less revenue from capital gains?

IIRC TNF wants to ban all non-public schools.

[barfbag]

No unless he overturns Obamacare.

[H. Ross Peron]

No unless he overturns Obamacare.

Obamacare will be an integral part of the American health care system in a decade and Republicans will attempt to claim the glory of having originated the plan.

[7,052,770]

No unless he overturns Obamacare.

Obamacare will be an integral part of the American health care system in a decade and Republicans will attempt to claim the glory of having originated the plan.

Yep.  Once the Tea Party is thrown out in 2014 and 2016, the new 2018 class of Republicans will campaign on "Obamacare was our idea all along!  I never opposed it -- that was those Tea Party morons!"

[barfbag]

No unless he overturns Obamacare.

Obamacare will be an integral part of the American health care system in a decade and Republicans will attempt to claim the glory of having originated the plan.

Yep.  Once the Tea Party is thrown out in 2014 and 2016, the new 2018 class of Republicans will campaign on "Obamacare was our idea all along!  I never opposed it -- that was those Tea Party morons!"

No none of this will happen. I can see how deranged liberals are by these comments though. You make up whatever you want to be true in your mind and then act like it is true.