1824 Party Caucuses

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Three Days.

Since the nation's beginning, only one President has been elected to three terms. Thomas Jefferson lived to preside over America for 12 years before his retirement in 1804. While George Clinton might have been able to do it, he died in 1812. Both John Quincy Adams and James Monroe proved unable to to win re-election. However, the two-term President DeWitt Clinton, elected by a strong margin in 1820, faces the possibility of a third term. He is not actively seeking such, but, should he be nominated by the new National Party, he would not be opposed.

The Federalist choice to nominate Fusion President Clinton for re-election would lead to a merger of the two in late 1821. The Federalists had failed for years to win a national election, and their only President since Jay had been in office thanks to Clinton's death and went down to defeat to James Monroe in 1812. Considering the several times the party had proved allies in national elections, the Fusion Party led by President Clinton would agree in a joint caucus with the remaining Federalists to become the National Party. This resulted in a defection of Northern "liberal" Fusion members back to the Republicans while Henry Clay, a prominent Republican himself, would lead a group from his party over to the Nationals. Among other contenders for the National nomination aside from Clinton are Vice President John Quincy Adams, Speaker Henry Clay, and Treasury Secretary Richard Rush.

While some were disheartened by Clark's defeat in 1824, the "Hero of the North-West" and his supporters have remained undeterred. However, while Clark may have the support of the West, there are those in the North backing Clinton-rival Martin Van Buren of New York, or Albert Gallatin as a throwback to the last time Republicans won an election, 1812. The South has a number of champions--Calhoun, Macon, and Crawford. Andrew Jackson, the 1816 nominee, naturally has a small corps of supporters in the caucus pushing for his nomination.

Whom will you choose?

[TDAS04]

Adams.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Clinton/Adams - remember, Clinton dies in 1828, so we can still have President Adams.

[PPT Spiral]

Van Buren!

[Goldwater]

Clark, although Van Buren is also good.

[PPT Spiral]

Also, has anything notable occurred with Clinton's administration these last four years?

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Also, has anything notable occurred with Clinton's administration these last four years?

Like I frickin' know. I'm busy most of the day, and the parts I'm not busy with are spent knowing that I should be busy. Make something up. I'm merely speculating when I say that, as far as I know, there's no type of "Monroe Doctrine" precedent.

[OAM]

Clay/Webster

Rally around Clay!

[H. Ross Peron]

Adams.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Adams/Clinton

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

Van Buren/Crawford

[OAM]

Jeeze, if this is going to be Adams vs Van Bueren I'm going to be so depressed

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Jeeze, if this is going to be Adams vs Van Bueren I'm going to be so depressed

Don't worry, Clark and Van Buren are tied.

[OAM]

Jeeze, if this is going to be Adams vs Van Bueren I'm going to be so depressed

Don't worry, Clark and Van Buren are tied.

Nope.  Van Buren is on there twice...

[OAM]

Of course, it looks like Clay just got 2 votes, so I'm not depressed anymore

[Supersonic]

National: Adams.

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Jeeze, if this is going to be Adams vs Van Bueren I'm going to be so depressed

Don't worry, Clark and Van Buren are tied.

Nope.  Van Buren is on there twice...

I assume the votes for both Van Burens count toward his total. It's not like Van Buren 1 gets 3 votes, Van Buren 2 gets 4 votes, and Clark gets 5 votes and the win (I hope).

Also Claymentum and Calhounmentum!

[OAM]

Jeeze, if this is going to be Adams vs Van Bueren I'm going to be so depressed

Don't worry, Clark and Van Buren are tied.

Nope.  Van Buren is on there twice...

I assume the votes for both Van Burens count toward his total. It's not like Van Buren 1 gets 3 votes, Van Buren 2 gets 4 votes, and Clark gets 5 votes and the win (I hope).

Also Claymentum and Calhounmentum!

Yeah, but at the time you posted that, it meant Van Buren was actually winning

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Jeeze, if this is going to be Adams vs Van Bueren I'm going to be so depressed

Don't worry, Clark and Van Buren are tied.

Nope.  Van Buren is on there twice...

I assume the votes for both Van Burens count toward his total. It's not like Van Buren 1 gets 3 votes, Van Buren 2 gets 4 votes, and Clark gets 5 votes and the win (I hope).

Also Claymentum and Calhounmentum!

Yeah, but at the time you posted that, it meant Van Buren was actually winning

It doesn't matter. If there's a runoff with the Nationals I'll vote for Clay, but I kinda want to see Adams be president twice just to make the presidents list even weirder.

[OAM]

Jeeze, if this is going to be Adams vs Van Bueren I'm going to be so depressed

Don't worry, Clark and Van Buren are tied.

Nope.  Van Buren is on there twice...

I assume the votes for both Van Burens count toward his total. It's not like Van Buren 1 gets 3 votes, Van Buren 2 gets 4 votes, and Clark gets 5 votes and the win (I hope).

Also Claymentum and Calhounmentum!

Yeah, but at the time you posted that, it meant Van Buren was actually winning

It doesn't matter. If there's a runoff with the Nationals I'll vote for Clay, but I kinda want to see Adams be president twice just to make the presidents list even weirder.

I'm just pointing out your statement was incorrect when you said it because my OCD demands it.  I'm not referring to the eventual outcome in any way

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Jeeze, if this is going to be Adams vs Van Bueren I'm going to be so depressed

Don't worry, Clark and Van Buren are tied.

Nope.  Van Buren is on there twice...

I assume the votes for both Van Burens count toward his total. It's not like Van Buren 1 gets 3 votes, Van Buren 2 gets 4 votes, and Clark gets 5 votes and the win (I hope).

Also Claymentum and Calhounmentum!

Yeah, but at the time you posted that, it meant Van Buren was actually winning

It doesn't matter. If there's a runoff with the Nationals I'll vote for Clay, but I kinda want to see Adams be president twice just to make the presidents list even weirder.

I'm just pointing out your statement was incorrect when you said it because my OCD demands it.  I'm not referring to the eventual outcome in any way

Ah. I kinda want to see Clay vs. Calhoun/Jackson just to see how high a percentage Clay will get.

[OAM]

Making it like the real 1824, a 4 way, would be fun too.  I almost have to remind myself that just 2 parties would be unusual for this year.

[Redalgo]

Okay, I need to be honest with ya'll here. I recognize a few of those names but have no [Inks]ing clue where they stand on enough issues to choose from among them. I do not even know whether I could vote for any of them in good conscience, as opposed to offering a protest vote. D:

[PPT Spiral]

Okay, I need to be honest with ya'll here. I recognize a few of those names but have no [Inks]ing clue where they stand on enough issues to choose from among them. I do not even know whether I could vote for any of them in good conscience, as opposed to offering a protest vote. D:

Wikipedia is your friend, lad.

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Making it like the real 1824, a 4 way, would be fun too.  I almost have to remind myself that just 2 parties would be unusual for this year.

We just went from a three-party system to a two-party system. Give this time to stabilize before things get crazy again.