SENATE BILL: Deregistration Amendment (AFV)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Sponsor: NC Yankee for homelycooking

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Throwing this in the Emergency slot, since the next one is soon. Also it is forum Affairs anyway.

I am requesting unanimous consent to waive the minimum debate and cloture requirements, Senators have 24 hours to object.

I am doing this in case something comes up and we need the slot. I don't have to open it when it goes through but I can if needed or if we are finished with this.

I am going to PM homelycooking and have him explain the details.

[tmthforu94]

So essentially, this bill just means that referendums don't count towards deregistration totals?

If so, this has my support.

[homelycooking]

Yes, it's quite simple. The "purpose of determining citizens' eligibility for deregistration" is very limited - meaning only that one can't be deregistered (by me, the RG) in whole or in part because one has missed a referendum election.

However, I believe that since a referendum is preceded and followed by federal Senate and/or Presidential elections, we are really setting a very low standard for citizen participation. Ideally, citizens should be required to vote in every (or almost every) election or expect to be deregistered. If they'd like to become active citizens again once their registrations have lapsed, they should be welcomed back into the fold and encouraged to reregister without delay or penalty, as they are now. But this bill is an attempt to accommodate the concerns raised by those who believe that referenda do not yet have the visibility or importance to warrant mandating citizen participation in them.

[TNF]

This definitely has my support.

[Maxwell]

this has my support.

[Sbane]

Well, I agree with Homely. Initiatives should be counted when determining activity levels. Missing a presidential election or two and missing all other elections doesn't mean you still get to be a citizen. We need to expect more from our citizens. And in any case, if they care enough, they have the option to re-register. Anyways, it doesn't matter what I think. Most of the people here like their zombie voters, it seems, so this will pass. As long as they show up from time to time to throw you a vote or two.

[bore]

What would happen if the bill doesn't pass?

[Talleyrand]

Why not amend the constitution to read the following?

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This would get rid of the automated de-registration at six months and allow the Registrar General to de-register people after they missed three consecutive federal elections (including the irregular elections). Normally when people miss three federal elections, they've lost interest in the game, and should not be on the rolls. And in the rare instances where that's not the case, such as the de-registration of Nathan, the said voter can simply re-register. It's not a difficult concept.

I'm not sure why people want to keep hordes of inactive voters on the rolls months after they've lost interest if possible to remove them earlier. That was the case when when we had 180/190 voters only a few months ago. Due to Homely's lawful actions, we now have a much more realistic, cleaned-up list of 146 voters, the vast majority of who are active.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I would want to see what homely says about switching to an amendment here.

[homelycooking]

I support Talleyrand's proposed constitutional amendment, and agree entirely with his rationale. But the entire reason for this bill's introduction in the first place was to propose to redress a grievance regarding deregistrations after referenda, which came with the attached threat of litigation. Seeing that several Senators have expressed their support for this introduced bill, I suppose that the two should be considered separately.

For the record, I do not support this bill. I merely proposed it to NCYankee as a way to make amends for perceived wrongs perpetrated by my office.

[Maxwell]

If Talleyrand wishes to make something more formal, I would be willing to sponsor it.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

If seperate is the preferred means and time is limited on this for multiple reasons, I can start a final vote on this tomorrow evening if that is acceptable to everyone.

[Maxwell]

I object, as I think Senator Bore has an amendment that I plan to co-sponsor.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I object, as I think Senator Bore has an amendment that I plan to co-sponsor.

Amendments to legislation don't have co-sponsors, at least not officially.

Also:

I am requesting unanimous consent to waive the minimum debate and cloture requirements, Senators have 24 hours to object.

How stupid of me to forget I posted this when I made my last post. I waived the minimum debate time, I can start a vote any time I want to now.

I also waived the cloture requirement, and it has been over 48 hours so objections are invalid.

So how long will it take for this amendment to be proposed?

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I hope that the Senate will also consider specifying that anyone who was deregistered but has voted within the previous six months shall have any votes they make counted as valid.

[Maxwell]

I'll go ahead and introduce this as such as completely new text for this:

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[President Tyrion]

I suggest we try to pass this ASAP, so we can have the case against homely dismissed.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Status: Senators have 24 hours to object.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

The amendment has been adopted.

Senators this is now at final vote, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

[tmthforu94]

Aye

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE

[TNF]

Nay

[Sbane]

Aye

[Maxwell]

Aye