Alex Sink running for Bill Young's old house seat

[DrScholl]

Sink is the only Democrat to win a constitutional office in Florida this century, so I don't see her as a bad candidate. Besides, I read that the DCCC wants her to run again and they don't usually want poor candidates to run again.

She won one election eight years ago.

Still, it's a stretch to keep calling her a horrible candidate. She over performed greatly in poor turnout conditions, I don't think any other candidate would have done as well in FL-13 as Sink, nor as well for Governor in 2010.

She overperformed? When the polls are predicting you'll win, and you'll lose, that's not called overperforming. That's underperforming. Any of the other candidates who grew up in FL-13 or have actually lived in FL-13 or owned a house in FL-13 or held a job in FL-13 would've done just as well if not better.

I won't argue about it, but the point is, she over performed in terms of how other Democrats would have performed with such turnout conditions. Some Democrats have lost by double digits in marginal seats or states, but Sink got pretty close. Turnout and gerrymandering are two issues that everyone wants to dismiss, but they play a big role in elections.

[publicunofficial]

Sink is the only Democrat to win a constitutional office in Florida this century, so I don't see her as a bad candidate. Besides, I read that the DCCC wants her to run again and they don't usually want poor candidates to run again.

She won one election eight years ago.

Still, it's a stretch to keep calling her a horrible candidate. She over performed greatly in poor turnout conditions, I don't think any other candidate would have done as well in FL-13 as Sink, nor as well for Governor in 2010.

She overperformed? When the polls are predicting you'll win, and you'll lose, that's not called overperforming. That's underperforming. Any of the other candidates who grew up in FL-13 or have actually lived in FL-13 or owned a house in FL-13 or held a job in FL-13 would've done just as well if not better.

As said above, you can't blame Sink for not living up to the polls; her own internal polling always had it very close. The polls were bad.

Also, I'm okay with Sink running. If she loses again, then we can tell her to shove it and start recruiting Charlie Justice or whoever else we think would be better. If she wins, she proves the special election was purely a turnout game an obliterates the "Referendum on Obamacare" talking point. Also, I think the DCCC should show loyalty to the candidates they recruit into tough races.

[badgate]

That was not directed at you as much as the faint light at the end of the tunnel that you were desperately trying to scratch with the tip of your finger nail to feed your hackish fantasies.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Sink is the only Democrat to win a constitutional office in Florida this century, so I don't see her as a bad candidate. Besides, I read that the DCCC wants her to run again and they don't usually want poor candidates to run again.

The "best" candidate doesn't mean they are a lock. 'She ain't goin nowhere!

Who said she was a lock? I never put that in my post.

That was not directed at you as much as the faint light at the end of the tunnel that you were desperately trying to scratch with the tip of your finger nail to feed your hackish fantasies. I don't even know why the DCCC is wasting money on this seat. They need to hold Murphy and Garcia. Murphy is the only hope the FL Democrats really have besides the Republican their running this year.

Gwen Graham says hello.

I forgot about her, but yes, she is a viable candidate.

[publicunofficial]

Sink will not run in the General

My fellow Democrats can now begin cheering because it was COMPLETELY her fault and she deserves to die in a hole for losing /borderline-misogynist

[Hifly]

The political career of this woman is in complete tatters.

[Zioneer]

Sink will not run in the General

My fellow Democrats can now begin cheering because it was COMPLETELY her fault and she deserves to die in a hole for losing /borderline-misogynist

Nah, I just think she was a bad candidate. I think Charlie Justice will be a much better candidate in the general. Or even Ehrlich.

[free my dawg]

Sink will not run in the General

My fellow Democrats can now begin cheering because it was COMPLETELY her fault and she deserves to die in a hole for losing /borderline-misogynist

Uhh... I've already said multiple times that my preferred candidate is Ehrlich. You know my issue with Alex Sink, and crying misogyny isn't going to work with me.

[windjammer]

Seriously, I agree with Sawx, Ehrlich would be a good candidate!

[free my dawg]

If you can get under a 15% margin against Young, you're doing something right.

I for one think she has a good chance at taking this seat now.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Agreed with Sawx entirely; Ehrlich can win. Sink cannot.

Sink will not run in the General

My fellow Democrats can now begin cheering because it was COMPLETELY her fault and she deserves to die in a hole for losing /borderline-misogynist

So, let me get this straight, voting for a man or criticizing a female candidate is misogynist?

[DrScholl]

I doubt any Democrat wins this seat in 2014, with an incumbent in place, it would be hard to do. Plus, it's drawn for a Republican, it doesn't matter if Obama won it, it's not a Democratic seat.

[publicunofficial]

Agreed with Sawx entirely; Ehrlich can win. Sink cannot.

Sink will not run in the General

My fellow Democrats can now begin cheering because it was COMPLETELY her fault and she deserves to die in a hole for losing /borderline-misogynist

So, let me get this straight, voting for a man or criticizing a female candidate is misogynist?

It's misogynist when this forum treats every female candidate like a "bitch" or a idiot when they lose. If Alex Sink was a guy, this forum would not have gone as apes**t as it did when she lost.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Agreed with Sawx entirely; Ehrlich can win. Sink cannot.

Sink will not run in the General

My fellow Democrats can now begin cheering because it was COMPLETELY her fault and she deserves to die in a hole for losing /borderline-misogynist

So, let me get this straight, voting for a man or criticizing a female candidate is misogynist?

It's misogynist when this forum treats every female candidate like a "bitch" or a idiot when they lose. If Alex Sink was a guy, this forum would not have gone as apes**t as it did when she lost.

I'm glad that in your one year of membership you have deduced that this forum hates female candidates who lose. Give one other example of this before you make your hackish claims. Sink lost because she was an idiot. Just like Romney lost because he was an idiot.

[publicunofficial]

Agreed with Sawx entirely; Ehrlich can win. Sink cannot.

Sink will not run in the General

My fellow Democrats can now begin cheering because it was COMPLETELY her fault and she deserves to die in a hole for losing /borderline-misogynist

So, let me get this straight, voting for a man or criticizing a female candidate is misogynist?

It's misogynist when this forum treats every female candidate like a "bitch" or a idiot when they lose. If Alex Sink was a guy, this forum would not have gone as apes**t as it did when she lost.

I'm glad that in your one year of membership you have deduced that this forum hates female candidates who lose. Give one other example of this before you make your hackish claims. Sink lost because she was an idiot. Just like Romney lost because he was an idiot.

I don't see where I'm being a hack as this applies to my fellow Democrats as much as Republicans.

Wendy Davis and Hillary Clinton have been largely characterized as dumb and bitchy, respectively, multiple times all over this forum. And while I really don't like Colleen Hanabusa, some of the criticisms of here have been downright sexist.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Agreed with Sawx entirely; Ehrlich can win. Sink cannot.

Sink will not run in the General

My fellow Democrats can now begin cheering because it was COMPLETELY her fault and she deserves to die in a hole for losing /borderline-misogynist

So, let me get this straight, voting for a man or criticizing a female candidate is misogynist?

It's misogynist when this forum treats every female candidate like a "bitch" or a idiot when they lose. If Alex Sink was a guy, this forum would not have gone as apes**t as it did when she lost.

I'm glad that in your one year of membership you have deduced that this forum hates female candidates who lose. Give one other example of this before you make your hackish claims. Sink lost because she was an idiot. Just like Romney lost because he was an idiot.

I don't see where I'm being a hack as this applies to my fellow Democrats as much as Republicans.

Wendy Davis and Hillary Clinton have been largely characterized as dumb and bitchy, respectively, multiple times all over this forum. And while I really don't like Colleen Hanabusa, some of the criticisms of here have been downright sexist.

The only sexist attack on Hanabusa I have seen was from a female poster. And men get criticized all the time here in the same manner. Female politicians are not above criticism because of their gender.

[Donerail]

I doubt any Democrat wins this seat in 2014, with an incumbent in place, it would be hard to do. Plus, it's drawn for a Republican, it doesn't matter if Obama won it, it's not a Democratic seat.

We've been over this before and I question why I continue to try, but this seat was drawn for a Republican (Bill Young). It wasn't drawn for any Republican. It's a winnable seat by any measure.

[DrScholl]

I doubt any Democrat wins this seat in 2014, with an incumbent in place, it would be hard to do. Plus, it's drawn for a Republican, it doesn't matter if Obama won it, it's not a Democratic seat.

We've been over this before and I question why I continue to try, but this seat was drawn for a Republican (Bill Young). It wasn't drawn for any Republican. It's a winnable seat by any measure.

You don't need to repeat yourself, I saw what you posted before. It's certainly is a seat that is winnable for a Republican other than Bill Young, which is why it is held by a Republican right now.

[Donerail]

I doubt any Democrat wins this seat in 2014, with an incumbent in place, it would be hard to do. Plus, it's drawn for a Republican, it doesn't matter if Obama won it, it's not a Democratic seat.

We've been over this before and I question why I continue to try, but this seat was drawn for a Republican (Bill Young). It wasn't drawn for any Republican. It's a winnable seat by any measure.

You don't need to repeat yourself, I saw what you posted before. It's certainly is a seat that is winnable for a Republican other than Bill Young, which is why it is held by a Republican right now.

I still don't see how you can take the fact a seat is held by a Republican right now and has been won by a Republican in the past and use that to say it's a Republican seat. By that logic CA-31's a Republican seat.

[Maxwell]

Agreed with Sawx entirely; Ehrlich can win. Sink cannot.

Sink will not run in the General

My fellow Democrats can now begin cheering because it was COMPLETELY her fault and she deserves to die in a hole for losing /borderline-misogynist

So, let me get this straight, voting for a man or criticizing a female candidate is misogynist?

It's misogynist when this forum treats every female candidate like a "bitch" or a idiot when they lose. If Alex Sink was a guy, this forum would not have gone as apes**t as it did when she lost.

They almost certainly would've, if he had lost the Governors race against someone with billion dollar medicare fraud, and then lost a very winnable house race. Let's be real.

[DrScholl]

I doubt any Democrat wins this seat in 2014, with an incumbent in place, it would be hard to do. Plus, it's drawn for a Republican, it doesn't matter if Obama won it, it's not a Democratic seat.

We've been over this before and I question why I continue to try, but this seat was drawn for a Republican (Bill Young). It wasn't drawn for any Republican. It's a winnable seat by any measure.

You don't need to repeat yourself, I saw what you posted before. It's certainly is a seat that is winnable for a Republican other than Bill Young, which is why it is held by a Republican right now.

I still don't see how you can take the fact a seat is held by a Republican right now and has been won by a Republican in the past and use that to say it's a Republican seat. By that logic CA-31's a Republican seat.

CA-31 went Republican because no Democrat was present in the general election, that's not that case with FL-13. FL-13 is R+2, CA-31 is D+6, that's a big difference. Democrats can win R+2 seats, but not with ease.

[Donerail]

I doubt any Democrat wins this seat in 2014, with an incumbent in place, it would be hard to do. Plus, it's drawn for a Republican, it doesn't matter if Obama won it, it's not a Democratic seat.

We've been over this before and I question why I continue to try, but this seat was drawn for a Republican (Bill Young). It wasn't drawn for any Republican. It's a winnable seat by any measure.

You don't need to repeat yourself, I saw what you posted before. It's certainly is a seat that is winnable for a Republican other than Bill Young, which is why it is held by a Republican right now.

I still don't see how you can take the fact a seat is held by a Republican right now and has been won by a Republican in the past and use that to say it's a Republican seat. By that logic CA-31's a Republican seat.

CA-31 went Republican because no Democrat was present in the general election, that's not that case with FL-13. FL-13 is R+2, CA-31 is D+6, that's a big difference. Democrats can win R+2 seats, but not with ease.

It's R+1. Same as FL-26, less than FL-18. This is a very winnable seat, as was demonstrated by FL Dems winning seats with similar numbers last cycle.

[DrScholl]

I doubt any Democrat wins this seat in 2014, with an incumbent in place, it would be hard to do. Plus, it's drawn for a Republican, it doesn't matter if Obama won it, it's not a Democratic seat.

We've been over this before and I question why I continue to try, but this seat was drawn for a Republican (Bill Young). It wasn't drawn for any Republican. It's a winnable seat by any measure.

You don't need to repeat yourself, I saw what you posted before. It's certainly is a seat that is winnable for a Republican other than Bill Young, which is why it is held by a Republican right now.

I still don't see how you can take the fact a seat is held by a Republican right now and has been won by a Republican in the past and use that to say it's a Republican seat. By that logic CA-31's a Republican seat.

CA-31 went Republican because no Democrat was present in the general election, that's not that case with FL-13. FL-13 is R+2, CA-31 is D+6, that's a big difference. Democrats can win R+2 seats, but not with ease.

It's R+1. Same as FL-26, less than FL-18. This is a very winnable seat, as was demonstrated by FL Dems winning seats with similar numbers last cycle.

Seats won with presidential level turnout, and I seriously doubt Sink would have lost if turnout had been at presidential level (which isn't really possible in a special).

[free my dawg]

Ehrlich is in.

Deep breaths, Democrats. We've got redemption on our hands.

[windjammer]

Ehrlich is in.

Deep breaths, Democrats. We've got redemption on our hands.

I hope this time, Emily List will endorse her INDEFINITELY.