Opinion of John F. Kennedy

[courts]

Probably the most wildly overrated figure in American history. So glad I'm not one of these Republicans that shouts about how JFK would be a Republican these days nor would want him to be one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGhR2VnVma0&feature=youtu.be

[Keystone Phil]

Probably the most wildly overrated figure in American history. So glad I'm not one of these Republicans that shouts about how JFK would be a Republican these days nor would want him to be one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zGhR2VnVma0&feature=youtu.be

Yeah, because there hasn't been a slobberfest over the Kennedy family (particularly JFK) for the past fifty plus years...

[courts]

well, not denying that. however, you could play drinking games with the amount of times republicans mention they're reagan conservatives or reagan in some context or another during debates or cpac or stump speeches or whatever. at least democrats don't seem to have tourettes when it comes to their idol's name.

[courts]

Massive FF, underrated in general by people who think they're sage (see the bizarre Woodrow Wilson backlash on the internet).

No.

[Keystone Phil]

well, not denying that. however, you could play drinking games with the amount of times republicans mention they're reagan conservatives or reagan in some context or another during debates or cpac or stump speeches or whatever.

...and the same with Dems and JFK except for a longer period of time.

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Disagree. Maybe not as much now but JFK still gets tons of attention.

[Lief 🗽]

oakvale's the only one talking a lick of sense in this thread

[Goldwater]

FF (R)

[Peeperkorn]

Massive Alpha Male. Like Bubba.

[All Along The Watchtower]

oakvale's the only one talking a lick of sense in this thread

No.

[Oakvale]

oakvale's the only one talking a lick of sense in this thread

No.

[Peter the Lefty]

oakvale's the only one talking a lick of sense in this thread

No.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Espionage_Act_of_1917
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sedition_Act_of_1918
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woodrow_Wilson#Civil_Rights
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alice_Paul#Activism

[All Along The Watchtower]

oakvale's the only one talking a lick of sense in this thread

No.

OMG SO CLEVER

[Antonio the Sixth]

Not as good as made out to be by the popular legend, not as bad as made out to be by the revisionist crowd. An above-average President with laudable goals but who never really had the chance to achieve much policy-wise.

I'm still a LBJ hack (yeah, I know, Vietnam etc...).

[Tetro Kornbluth]

Oh for the days when a pop popping philander could be made POTUS and have nobody comment on it. Since his death, everyone has gotten all serious and now we are meant to care. Therefore I blame Oswald for the Shutdown.

[Peter the Lefty]

Not as good as made out to be by the popular legend, not as bad as made out to be by the revisionist crowd. An above-average President with laudable goals but who never really had the chance to achieve much policy-wise.

I'm still a LBJ hack (yeah, I know, Vietnam etc...).

How are you both a Palme fan and an LBJ hack?

[Keystone Phil]

How does the "WAR ON WOMEN!!!1" crowd in here feel about pig Kennedy asking his 18 or 19 year old mistress to give his brother some oral sex while he watched? Classy move? "OH BUT THE GLAMOR OF THOSE DAYS...!"

[Antonio the Sixth]

Not as good as made out to be by the popular legend, not as bad as made out to be by the revisionist crowd. An above-average President with laudable goals but who never really had the chance to achieve much policy-wise.

I'm still a LBJ hack (yeah, I know, Vietnam etc...).

How are you both a Palme fan and an LBJ hack?

Well, they are the products of very different experiences and led very different countries in very different situations. I do (by a mile) prefer Palme to LBJ and would obviously have sided with him on Vietnam. Still, what these two figures achieved (relatively speaking) in domestic policy is actually pretty similar - actually, I could give an edge to LBJ on this issue considering Civil Rights.

[Peeperkorn]

How does the "WAR ON WOMEN!!!1" crowd in here feel about pig Kennedy asking his 18 or 19 year old mistress to give his brother some oral sex while he watched? Classy move? "OH BUT THE GLAMOR OF THOSE DAYS...!"

Those were different, probably better times.

[opebo]

How does the "WAR ON WOMEN!!!1" crowd in here feel about pig Kennedy asking his 18 or 19 year old mistress to give his brother some oral sex while he watched? Classy move? "OH BUT THE GLAMOR OF THOSE DAYS...!"

Those were different, probably better times.

For sure, much, much better times in the bedroom.

[tik 🪀✨]

My opinion of LBJ? I was told he was an inspiring man, and I do what I'm told.

How does the "WAR ON WOMEN!!!1" crowd in here feel about pig Kennedy asking his 18 or 19 year old mistress to give his brother some oral sex while he watched? Classy move? "OH BUT THE GLAMOR OF THOSE DAYS...!"

Those were different, probably better times.

For sure, much, much better times in the bedroom.

Depends on what was in your head and what was between your legs. If you mean it was easier to coerce, I guess that's true. It seems these days it would be more fun and open for more people in the bedroom.

[Lief 🗽]

My opinion of LBJ? I was told he was an inspiring man, and I do what I'm told.

How does the "WAR ON WOMEN!!!1" crowd in here feel about pig Kennedy asking his 18 or 19 year old mistress to give his brother some oral sex while he watched? Classy move? "OH BUT THE GLAMOR OF THOSE DAYS...!"

Those were different, probably better times.

For sure, much, much better times in the bedroom.

Depends on what was in your head and what was between your legs. If you mean it was easier to coerce, I guess that's true. It seems these days it would be more fun and open for more people in the bedroom.

Yeah, but on the other hand boobs were shaped like torpedos in the 60s and no one shaved anything, so it's easy to see why one could go either way on this.

[Maxwell]

A frontman for corporate expansion and expansion of wealth for the ruling class. Also, a fan of radical islamists and a fan of the Wright Brothers. HP.

[Bleeding heart conservative, HTMLdon]

FF(R).

As a Republican, I have to say I strongly admire what the Kennedy administration accomplished and stood for.  

He set us on a path that ended Jim Crow, avoided nuclear war, and sent human beings to the friggin moon.

Today we consider calls to service to be !!ZOMG SOCIALISM!!!! and cannot manage build a functioning insurance website.  

[courts]

FF(R).

As a Republican, I have to say I strongly admire what the Kennedy administration accomplished and stood for.  

He set us on a path that ended Jim Crow, avoided nuclear war, and sent human beings to the friggin moon.

Today we consider calls to service to be !!ZOMG SOCIALISM!!!! and cannot manage build a functioning insurance website.  

who is this 'we?' i think you mean 'the us government.'