Your views on the War on Abortion

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

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But let's continue to restrict abortion so that fewer abortions are attempted. Let's have a War on Abortion. After all, look at the War on Drugs. That worked out great.

[H. Ross Peron]

Third option. While I support pro-life policies including banning abortion, I do recognize that if we're going to reduce the number of abortions, we can't ignore providing a decent safety net for children and preventing the need for abortions in the first place via education and birth control.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Asinine hyperbole.

[morgieb]

Clearly hyperbole. Though he certainly does have a point IMO.

[DC Al Fine]

I think the demand for abortion is significantly more elastic than the demand for say heroin. False equivalency IMO.

[barfbag]

There's no equivalence between the War on Drugs and efforts to outlaw abortions. Abortions would be fewer if the practice was reserved for instances of rape, incest, damaged fetuses, and threats to the mother's life. As for drugs, I don't know of anyone who chooses not to do drugs just because it's illegal. I support efforts to stop both with the exception of my view that marijuana should be legal.

Here is something interesting. I've been saying all along that the issue of abortion depends on how the question is asked.

Do you support a woman's right to choose?

Are you pro-life?

See how you want to say yes to both of the above questions. Now I'm going to reword the questions.

Do you support abortion?

Are you pro-abortion?

Notice how most people would say no to the above questions based on how they're worded.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     The equivalence is problematic because the illegality of drugs spurs people to try harder to get them due to the taboo factor. I doubt it being forbidden would make people want abortions more.

[Person Man]

Option 3. Though if Roe were overruled (or even where Roe is not explicitly overruled but was relaxed to the point where states could effective end the practice without the clinics there being bankroled by some Hollywood kingpin) AND states that had like at least a third of the US population outlawed it (or made it impossible to get) and then their deputies and cops started trying to restrict travel and breaking into people houses and doing other blatantly illegal things to stop it and started to get away with it   OR if states with any majority of the US population just outright made it at least serious misdemeanor  then yes. There would be a "War on Abortion"

[minionofmidas]

I misread this as "Your wives on the War on Abortion".

[Person Man]

     The equivalence is problematic because the illegality of drugs spurs people to try harder to get them due to the taboo factor. I doubt it being forbidden would make people want abortions more.

Is there any evidence that prohibition increases demand for recreational drugs? I frequently hear this argument, but no one seems able to show that this is the case.

Well, it doesn't seem to REDUCE demand.

Though, it would be interesting whether there were ever was a War on Abortion. When it was illegal, Was there much of a demand for them in the first place? Were the police able to stop/prevent most of them? Was there aggressive public policies against them? (PR campaigns, public crack downs, mandatory minimums, specific civilian and paramilitary/police task forces that targeted abortion),  and if there were "bad guys", was there a "pussy mob"?

Basically, was abortion in 1953 like drugs in 2003?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I hate wars

[ElectionsGuy]

excessive hyperbole.

[Indy Texas]

My point wasn't that illegalizing abortion will make people want it more. It was that it will have virtually no effect on people wanting it. They will simply try to get one in underhanded, illegal ways.

Illegal abortion is what gives you Kermit Gosnell. He had a captive market - girls coming to him from Virginia, North Carolina, other states because there was nowhere else that would perform the procedure. So the fact that he was treating them like pieces of meat in a slaughterhouse wasn't something they could do anything about. Instead of having a variety of abortion providers competing with one another for patients and having an incentive to provide clean, safe facilities and treatment, you had a monopolist "bootlegger" in the form of Dr. Gosnell.

[Person Man]

My point wasn't that illegalizing abortion will make people want it more. It was that it will have virtually no effect on people wanting it. They will simply try to get one in underhanded, illegal ways.

Illegal abortion is what gives you Kermit Gosnell. He had a captive market - girls coming to him from Virginia, North Carolina, other states because there was nowhere else that would perform the procedure. So the fact that he was treating them like pieces of meat in a slaughterhouse wasn't something they could do anything about. Instead of having a variety of abortion providers competing with one another for patients and having an incentive to provide clean, safe facilities and treatment, you had a monopolist "bootlegger" in the form of Dr. Gosnell.

That fits into my question- If Abortions were made illegal in all or most circumstances in 5 years, would there be Breaking Bad or Scarface situation about 5 years after that?

[All Along The Watchtower]

Inseparable from the War on Feminism-Feminism being, of course, the radical idea that women are human beings deserving of equal rights and opportunities as men.

[Flake]

There's no equivalence between the War on Drugs and efforts to outlaw abortions. Abortions would be fewer if the practice was reserved for instances of rape, incest, damaged fetuses, and threats to the mother's life. As for drugs, I don't know of anyone who chooses not to do drugs just because it's illegal. I support efforts to stop both with the exception of my view that marijuana should be legal.

Here is something interesting. I've been saying all along that the issue of abortion depends on how the question is asked.

Do you support a woman's right to choose?
Yes
Are you pro-life?
No
See how you want to say yes to both of the above questions. Now I'm going to reword the questions.

Do you support abortion?
Yes
Are you pro-abortion?
Yes
Notice how most people would say no to the above questions based on how they're worded.

However, you need to know that many people are not pro abortion, they would never receive one, but they know they would respect and be okay with a woman having an abortion, but they will not get one. Those are two completely different questions, one says 'Would you support others getting an abortion?" and the other says "Would you get an abortion yourself?"