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« Reply #100 on: January 25, 2004, 05:20:23 pm »
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Realpolitik. Thank for you interest! I found this site for you. There is several maps about Finland and lot of other information about our history, society, economy, nature, way of life etc. All in English.

http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/english/finnmap.html

I also found maps of elections. But that site wasn't run very good. Also in English.

http://kartat.stat.fi/default_en.html

Finnish language is Finno-Ugrian one like are Hungarian,  Esthonian, Sami's language and several small minoritylanguages in central Russia.

Gustaf. Turkish isn't Finno-Ugrian language. It belongs to the Altaic branch of the Ural-Altaic family of languages.
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« Reply #101 on: January 25, 2004, 05:24:10 pm »
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Realpolitik. Thank for you interest! I found this site for you. There is several maps about Finland and lot of other information about our history, society, economy, nature, way of life etc. All in English.

http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/english/finnmap.html

I also found maps of elections. But that site wasn't run very good. Also in English.

http://kartat.stat.fi/default_en.html

Finnish language is Finno-Ugrian one like are Hungarian,  Esthonian, Sami's language and several small minoritylanguages in central Russia.

Gustaf. Turkish isn't Finno-Ugrian language. It belongs to the Altaic branch of the Ural-Altaic family of languages.

Yes, but I have this vague recollection of a language map where Uralic languages (including Finno-Ugrian and Samojedian) existed in Asia...I will check it and come back later.
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« Reply #102 on: January 26, 2004, 04:31:38 am »
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Realpolitik. Thank for you interest! I found this site for you. There is several maps about Finland and lot of other information about our history, society, economy, nature, way of life etc. All in English.

http://virtual.finland.fi/finfo/english/finnmap.html

I also found maps of elections. But that site wasn't run very good. Also in English.

http://kartat.stat.fi/default_en.html

Finnish language is Finno-Ugrian one like are Hungarian,  Esthonian, Sami's language and several small minoritylanguages in central Russia.

Gustaf. Turkish isn't Finno-Ugrian language. It belongs to the Altaic branch of the Ural-Altaic family of languages.

Thanks!!! Smiley
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« Reply #103 on: January 26, 2004, 04:45:00 pm »
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Gustaf. I found this information in website of University of Helsinki.

http://www.helsinki.fi/hum/sugl/fgrlang.html

The Finno-Ugrian or Uralic language family includes a group of languages (mainly) in northern Eurasia. (According to the traditional terminology, Uralic means both main branches of the language family, the Finno-Ugrian and the Samoyedic languages, but some colleagues use "Finno-Ugrian" as a synonym for "Uralic".)

The greatest Finno-Ugrian languages are Hungarian (ca. 14 million speakers), Finnish (ca. 5 million) and Estonian (1 million). Other Finno-Ugrian languages are smaller, practically all of them more or less endangered. (List of Finno-Ugrian languages and speaker statistics.)

Some hypotheses have been made concerning the possible genetic relationship between Uralic and other language families (Altaic, Indo-European or even Basque, for example), but Finnish Uralicists at least take a very reserved attitude towards them.


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« Reply #104 on: January 26, 2004, 05:16:20 pm »
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Gustaf. I found this information in website of University of Helsinki.

http://www.helsinki.fi/hum/sugl/fgrlang.html

The Finno-Ugrian or Uralic language family includes a group of languages (mainly) in northern Eurasia. (According to the traditional terminology, Uralic means both main branches of the language family, the Finno-Ugrian and the Samoyedic languages, but some colleagues use "Finno-Ugrian" as a synonym for "Uralic".)

The greatest Finno-Ugrian languages are Hungarian (ca. 14 million speakers), Finnish (ca. 5 million) and Estonian (1 million). Other Finno-Ugrian languages are smaller, practically all of them more or less endangered. (List of Finno-Ugrian languages and speaker statistics.)

Some hypotheses have been made concerning the possible genetic relationship between Uralic and other language families (Altaic, Indo-European or even Basque, for example), but Finnish Uralicists at least take a very reserved attitude towards them.




OK, then, thanks for the info, I guess I was just plain wrong then... Sad Happens to the best of us... Sad
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« Reply #105 on: January 28, 2004, 03:53:22 am »
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It's cold up here today... hmm... time to read Das Kapital methinks...
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« Reply #106 on: March 01, 2004, 09:58:58 pm »
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Maybe it simply has to do with this. In large cities, which in the US are MOSTLY in the North and on the coast, people tend to be closer together and more dependent on each other for each others common survival. In the states that go conservative, the south and middle america, the people in these regions of our nation have traditionally been farmers or labored for farms, thus if you grow your own food and raise your own animals you are dependent on yourself and God. People who are like this IMHO depend more on family values because if you have a family you have a unit and you can eat and have a comfortable life. If you break up a family you starve. Its all about survival. Whereas in a city if a family breaks up you are so crammed with others you can easily fall on someone else. If you're in the sticks and you get broken up your dead meat. I wouldnt say this so much applies in the 20-21st century but in the 19th it was more then true.
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« Reply #107 on: March 02, 2004, 04:48:03 am »
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Guess that explains a lot: It's said heat waves produce increased criminal activity and violence. Is it a coincidence that the warmer the climate, the more conservative the political structure?
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« Reply #108 on: March 02, 2004, 10:01:39 am »
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I think the whole logic about the thing is inherently flawed, lol, but I just gave my opinion about one "possibility".
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« Reply #109 on: March 02, 2004, 10:36:25 am »
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Question: Are those Confederate soldiers in your signature?
And if so how do you justify having a Republican avatar?
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« Reply #110 on: March 02, 2004, 01:05:28 pm »
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Guess that explains a lot: It's said heat waves produce increased criminal activity and violence. Is it a coincidence that the warmer the climate, the more conservative the political structure?


Cold climates leads to more efficiency, individualism and more respect for human lives. And i'm not just saying that b/c I am from Sweden... Wink
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« Reply #111 on: March 03, 2004, 01:49:36 am »
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Question: Are those Confederate soldiers in your signature?
And if so how do you justify having a Republican avatar?

Yes one is Thomas Jefferson and the other is two Confederate soldiers rallying around the 1st National Confederate Flag. I am a Republican because they stand for most of the issues I support. And yes I know you are going to try and say "Well Lincoln was a Republican". Yes he was, but the Republican party of the 1860s were the Radicals/Liberals and the Democrats were the conservatives. The parties views have flip flopped over the past 145 years. If their were a Constitutional Republic party I would probably be of it, or something like the party Teddy Roosevelt was in. Now THAT was a great man.
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Question: Are those Confederate soldiers in your signature?
And if so how do you justify having a Republican avatar?

Yes one is Thomas Jefferson and the other is two Confederate soldiers rallying around the 1st National Confederate Flag. I am a Republican because they stand for most of the issues I support. And yes I know you are going to try and say "Well Lincoln was a Republican". Yes he was, but the Republican party of the 1860s were the Radicals/Liberals and the Democrats were the conservatives. The parties views have flip flopped over the past 145 years. If their were a Constitutional Republic party I would probably be of it, or something like the party Teddy Roosevelt was in. Now THAT was a great man.

there is here. The progressive party
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« Reply #113 on: March 03, 2004, 04:38:43 am »
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Question: Are those Confederate soldiers in your signature?
And if so how do you justify having a Republican avatar?

Yes one is Thomas Jefferson and the other is two Confederate soldiers rallying around the 1st National Confederate Flag. I am a Republican because they stand for most of the issues I support. And yes I know you are going to try and say "Well Lincoln was a Republican". Yes he was, but the Republican party of the 1860s were the Radicals/Liberals and the Democrats were the conservatives. The parties views have flip flopped over the past 145 years. If their were a Constitutional Republic party I would probably be of it, or something like the party Teddy Roosevelt was in. Now THAT was a great man.

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The Democrats were never the conservatives (there have always been conservative Democrats though) and the Republicans have never been liberals (though there has always been socially liberal Republicans).
I'm not going to get into an argument over this, but I recommend you look up the politics of the C19th before believing what Trent Lott says.
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Yes one is Thomas Jefferson and the other is two Confederate soldiers rallying around the 1st National Confederate Flag. I am a Republican because they stand for most of the issues I support. And yes I know you are going to try and say "Well Lincoln was a Republican". Yes he was, but the Republican party of the 1860s were the Radicals/Liberals and the Democrats were the conservatives. The parties views have flip flopped over the past 145 years. If their were a Constitutional Republic party I would probably be of it, or something like the party Teddy Roosevelt was in. Now THAT was a great man.
we do not see Jefferson....
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« Reply #115 on: March 03, 2004, 08:58:32 am »
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Question: Are those Confederate soldiers in your signature?
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Yes one is Thomas Jefferson and the other is two Confederate soldiers rallying around the 1st National Confederate Flag. I am a Republican because they stand for most of the issues I support. And yes I know you are going to try and say "Well Lincoln was a Republican". Yes he was, but the Republican party of the 1860s were the Radicals/Liberals and the Democrats were the conservatives. The parties views have flip flopped over the past 145 years. If their were a Constitutional Republic party I would probably be of it, or something like the party Teddy Roosevelt was in. Now THAT was a great man.

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The Democrats were never the conservatives (there have always been conservative Democrats though) and the Republicans have never been liberals (though there has always been socially liberal Republicans).
I'm not going to get into an argument over this, but I recommend you look up the politics of the C19th before believing what Trent Lott says.

Lincolns ideas were very liberal for the time period. Not every northerner wanted to abolish slavery. The Abolishonist movement was very small, maybe 10% of the entire north. You might say that secession was a radical idea, although secession was believed to be the right of a state for many years. Daniel Webster preached it and several northern states almost seceded years before the civil war. Yes the Democrats had their radicals in the Copperheads, but they weren't socially liberal. Theirs always exceptions as their are today. But from what I've read the majority of Democrats were socially Conservative. And I would say a sizable portion of Republicans were socially Liberal (such as Lincoln). The only thing thats stayed the same with the Democrats is they believe in dependence on the government. Except back then they kept the black man dependent on the plantation, now the govt has taken the role of the plantation.
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« Reply #116 on: March 03, 2004, 09:02:30 am »
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Dunn, email me. I'd be interested in finding more out about your party.
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« Reply #117 on: March 03, 2004, 09:05:18 am »
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Lincoln was no liberal (he was an abominable racist for example) and the Abolishion of slavery was never a liberal issue (Abolitionists ranged from liberals like Van Buren, conservatives like Lincoln to nutters like John Brown).
After the Reconstruction, the Bourbons (conservative Democrats) were very powerful, but they were supplanted by populist Democrats within a few years.
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« Reply #118 on: March 03, 2004, 11:00:31 am »
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Dunn, email me. I'd be interested in finding more out about your party.

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« Reply #119 on: August 03, 2005, 12:30:48 pm »
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I have a theory that the colder the place, the more liberal & benign the people, and it seems to hold true! Canada, Norway, Iceland, Sweden & Finland are all very cold, all very liberal.

You know, the Vikings were actually nice people, but when they got down into the warmer area that the UK is in, man did they get riled up. Wink
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« Reply #120 on: August 03, 2005, 01:41:31 pm »
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I've thought of this theory before. It has a lot to do with how Mother nature is a capitalist b*tch in colder climates, and therefore the citizens have be socialist to make up for that Smiley
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« Reply #121 on: August 03, 2005, 01:42:22 pm »
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I've thought of this theory before. It has a lot to do with how Mother nature is a capitalist b*tch in colder climates, and therefore the citizens have be socialist to make up for that Smiley

So, does that mean people are just lazier in cold climates? Wink
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« Reply #122 on: August 03, 2005, 01:52:27 pm »
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I've thought of this theory before. It has a lot to do with how Mother nature is a capitalist b*tch in colder climates, and therefore the citizens have be socialist to make up for that Smiley

So, does that mean people are just lazier in cold climates? Wink

No, just the opposite. That's why communism will never work in warmer climates. Smiley The cold energizes people to work, because they need heat. That's how mother nature is capitalist. She forces people to work. I know when it gets hot out, it is when I feel the laziest Cheesy
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« Reply #123 on: August 03, 2005, 02:12:53 pm »
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I've thought of this theory before. It has a lot to do with how Mother nature is a capitalist b*tch in colder climates, and therefore the citizens have be socialist to make up for that Smiley

So, does that mean people are just lazier in cold climates? Wink

No, just the opposite. That's why communism will never work in warmer climates. Smiley The cold energizes people to work, because they need heat. That's how mother nature is capitalist. She forces people to work. I know when it gets hot out, it is when I feel the laziest Cheesy

Which is why those lazy damn Egyptians never got anything built and the USSR suffered from economic collapse. Wink
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« Reply #124 on: August 03, 2005, 02:49:15 pm »
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I've thought of this theory before. It has a lot to do with how Mother nature is a capitalist b*tch in colder climates, and therefore the citizens have be socialist to make up for that Smiley

So, does that mean people are just lazier in cold climates? Wink

No, just the opposite. That's why communism will never work in warmer climates. Smiley The cold energizes people to work, because they need heat. That's how mother nature is capitalist. She forces people to work. I know when it gets hot out, it is when I feel the laziest Cheesy

Which is why those lazy damn Egyptians never got anything built and the USSR suffered from economic collapse. Wink

The Egyptians had slavery for one thing. And well, the USSR was communist.
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