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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« on: December 04, 2013, 04:31:25 AM »

Amazing, a thread where virtually everyone who has posted so far is wrong to some extent.

OP
1. Eh/Worthless
2. Really, just gonna send the Army in Pershing style and demand they pay?
3. Impractical and Counterproductive
4. Genius. I would just love to see the GDP numbers with a shrinking population (sarcasm)
5. You would be better off spending it on education.
6. lol no. Value Migration is like water. It will flow. You block the left, it will go to the right. You ban our companies, then those companies will go out of business and 100% foreign companies will pick up the slack. Then you have to initiate an embargo to make it work. Enjoy rampant inflation and no gas.
7. border, border, border. Yea, it is basically a distraction.

This would wreak havoc on the US economy. Removing millions of people from the economy is not a reasonable option. You would turn the southwestern US into another Detroit.

Water shortages will do that anyway. The Southwest has too many people as it is. Losing a few hundred thousand or million, actually might ease the pain to come. Eventually nature will force them to move anyway. You don't have to worry about crops not being picked, when the water isn't there to grow it.

@ ElectionsGuy
Correct in general terms, but the history has shown that giving amnesty will only perpetuate the present status quo or worsen it.

I disagree with everything in the OP, and would describe border security as a low priority to me.

Well you have to have border security, but the over-emphasis on it is merely a distraction and frankly further such security will yield diminishing returns. The real game enforcement wise concerns reducing the demand for them to come here in the first place so that the traffic flow can be reduced. Economics play a huge roll in this so enfocring the work place is priority one.

Ban guest worker programs first and foremost.

They need to be fundamentally re-thought on many levels, or a different approach tried for sure.

The departed bb was at least honest about wanting a cyclical amnesty policy and if you are going to do it, yes you might as well give them citizenship (this legalized but not citizenship stuff is bs. Amnesty is amnesty, if you give it to them, you might as well go all the way). However, iti s not preferred or desriable and as was said by TNF condemns people to slavery and abuse until its "their turn". It also renders mute the whole purpose of having immigration laws if you are just going to waive it every twenty years for whoever makes it through the gaunlet of death and mistreatment. Sounds cruel and unusual to me. Either enforce the  laws or let everyone in who wants in (rather impratical since nature would once again veto it). 
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Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee
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« Reply #1 on: December 04, 2013, 04:53:42 AM »

You have to enforce the workplace and reform the legal system of course, and you cannot give amnesty except on a limited basis (something like a Dream Act for instance).
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