Condi won't rule out a run for the White House.

[TheWildCard]

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20050311-115948-2015r.htm

This interview might have just put her over the top for me... Her views on abortion and my own are almost identical.

[Rob]

Run, Condi, run!

She's not going anywhere.

[Ebowed]

She wouldn't win any primaries, I'll tell you that.

[So the Heroes Fall]

She has never held elected office, no one would care if she was not a black woman, and she could never win the primary anyway. She's going nowhere.

[12th Doctor]

Well, sounds like she is running to me.

[So the Heroes Fall]

The last president to have never held elected office previously and actually the last candidate who got anywhere was Eisenhower.

Condi is not remotely on the level of Eisenhower.

[Ebowed]

Condi is not remotely on the level of Eisenhower.

But she's a black woman.  If you don't vote for her, you're racist and sexist.

[Rob]

Condi is not remotely on the level of Eisenhower.

But she's a black woman.  If you don't vote for her, you're racist and sexist.

LOL, that's true. A while ago, some bastard called me a racist for not supporting Condi. Very stupid.

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LOL, that's true. A while ago, some bastard called me a racist for not supporting Condi. Very stupid.

It's sad, but the press really can't bear to ever criticize a black Republican.

[A18]

Actually, the press isn't supposed to criticize anyone.

[skybridge]

So what? The Prohibition party will nominate someone too.

[A18]

Um, huh?

[skybridge]

Um, huh?

My point is that someone's announced candidacy doesn't have to mean anything.

[dazzleman]

LOL, that's true. A while ago, some bastard called me a racist for not supporting Condi. Very stupid.

It's sad, but the press really can't bear to ever criticize a black Republican.

You're smoking some really good s**t.  Black Republicans are vilified in the press because they don't have the view that a black person is "supposed" to have.  I have the highest respect for Condi and other black Republicans who are able to think for themselves and take the abuse they take for exercising this fundamental right.

I think Condi is just playing a cat and mouse game right now.  I love the woman and would vote for her in a minute.  But she's never held elective office before, which is a big barrier.

I think she probably feels that all the presidential speculation gives her power and enhances interest in what she is doing, so why shut it down prematurely?  I really don't think she'll run though.  But I'd love to see her run and win.  She sure beats the Hildebeast in my opinion.

[Ebowed]

LOL, that's true. A while ago, some bastard called me a racist for not supporting Condi. Very stupid.

It's sad, but the press really can't bear to ever criticize a black Republican.

You're smoking some really good s**t.  Black Republicans are vilified in the press because they don't have the view that a black person is "supposed" to have.  I have the highest respect for Condi and other black Republicans who are able to think for themselves and take the abuse they take for exercising this fundamental right.

I guess you have the highest respect for white Democrats too?

[12th Doctor]

The last president to have never held elected office previously and actually the last candidate who got anywhere was Eisenhower.

Condi is not remotely on the level of Eisenhower.

True, but in the past, it was very common for Secretaries of State to become President.

[So the Heroes Fall]

The last president to have never held elected office previously and actually the last candidate who got anywhere was Eisenhower.

Condi is not remotely on the level of Eisenhower.

True, but in the past, it was very common for Secretaries of State to become President.

yeah, in the past. Not to mention she's only been Sec of State for 2 months, therefore she has no sort of record at all and her record could easily end up terrible.

She's going nowhere.

[TheWildCard]

The last president to have never held elected office previously and actually the last candidate who got anywhere was Eisenhower.

Condi is not remotely on the level of Eisenhower.

True, but in the past, it was very common for Secretaries of State to become President.

yeah, in the past. Not to mention she's only been Sec of State for 2 months, therefore she has no sort of record at all and her record could easily end up terrible.

She's going nowhere.

You're just scared out of your mind and in denial

[opebo]

She could never win any GOP primaries - she's black and according to this article Pro Choice!

[Ebowed]

She could never win any GOP primaries - she's black and according to this article Pro Choice!

She isn't pro-choice, she has 'moderate' views, i.e. for parental notification and banning partial-birth abortion... the gist I got is that she hasn't totally made up her mind on the rest of the stuff.

Rest assured, if she sought the nomination, she'd gradually gravitate to being more and more anti-abortion.

[opebo]

She could never win any GOP primaries - she's black and according to this article Pro Choice!

She isn't pro-choice, she has 'moderate' views, i.e. for parental notification and banning partial-birth abortion... the gist I got is that she hasn't totally made up her mind on the rest of the stuff.

Rest assured, if she sought the nomination, she'd gradually gravitate to being more and more anti-abortion.

Sounds reasonable, but she's still black - that's not going to fly in a GOP primary.

[Ebowed]

She could never win any GOP primaries - she's black and according to this article Pro Choice!

She isn't pro-choice, she has 'moderate' views, i.e. for parental notification and banning partial-birth abortion... the gist I got is that she hasn't totally made up her mind on the rest of the stuff.

Rest assured, if she sought the nomination, she'd gradually gravitate to being more and more anti-abortion.

Sounds reasonable, but she's still black - that's not going to fly in a GOP primary.

I agree with you there.  Look at Alan Keyes.  Republicans only like him when his opponent(s) are black.

[dazzleman]

You're smoking some really good s**t.  Black Republicans are vilified in the press because they don't have the view that a black person is "supposed" to have.  I have the highest respect for Condi and other black Republicans who are able to think for themselves and take the abuse they take for exercising this fundamental right.

I guess you have the highest respect for white Democrats too?

What's that got to do with anything?

The fact is, a white person can hold whatever opinion he/she wants without being vilified for it.  No, I don't like the Democrats, but I don't question a person's ethnic identity for being a Democrats.

Blacks have the burden of being told they're "oreos" or whatever stupid word people come up with if they don't toe the politically correct Democratic party line.

Colin Powell was called a "house slave" and Condi has been called worse.  Just because they're black, they're not allowed to think for themselves?

People who really believed in equality of the races would not criticize blacks for thinking for themselves.  Most people who say they want to help blacks simply want to control them, and their votes.

[AuH2O]

Actually Keyes did pretty well in the 2000 Primary, considering he's fairly crazy and not even remotely close to being qualified for high political office. And his opponents were all white.

But I digress. Rice has no business being considered a legit Presidential option for Republicans... she's never been elected to anything and has just zero domestic policy experience.

[Grad Students are the Worst]

I hate it when people criticize minorities for being Republicans ("you're a slave!") or Democrats ("you're just following all the other minorities and can't think you yourself!"). It's their right to hold political opinions without getting that crap. It's irrelevant. I can't believe people still lurk on that.

The problem with Condi is that she is five things:

1. Not very conservative.
2. A woman.
3. Black.
4. Inexperienced.
5. Not really a leader.

Some may object to the second and third items, or the fourth for the matter, but polls do show that a big chunk of Republicans simply would refuse to vote for a woman (many Democrats do, too, but not as many as Republicans).

While #3 is unfortunate, I'd wager there are maybe 5% of people who would be a lot less likely to vote for a black person. That can mean everything in a close election.

As for #5, I respect Rice in many ways, but I do not think she is a leader as much as a "team player" kind of person. She does not have the presence of a leader, nor the charisma to become one.

Although I am not all that fond of her, I wish she was a viable GOP candidate because I want to see more moderates like her get nominations. But, for the above reasons, she is not, and would not be great in the general, either.