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« on: March 12, 2005, 09:15:17 am »
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It would sort of undermine his legitimacy of breaking the party duopoly but how would he have done as a major party candidate?
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2005, 01:17:51 pm »
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oh yuck. I wouldn't vote for Nader any under circumstances.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2005, 09:12:37 pm »
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He would lose in a landslide.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2005, 09:25:44 pm »
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2005, 10:25:28 pm »
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Why would Nader do worse in N.Y. than in the South?
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2005, 10:27:09 pm »
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I'm just too lazy to worry about the percentages
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2005, 03:24:28 am »
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He would win California, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Vermont, and the District of Columbia. Maryland, Connecticut, New York, and Washington State would all be toss-ups. Maine and New Jersey could be within range - maybe.

A landslide for even a mediocre Republican.
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2005, 04:35:29 am »
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This is supposed to be in 2000 when he did fairly well as a third party candidate.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2005, 01:46:49 pm »
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Nader would not win California.  CA was a swing state in Summer 2000, it would be lean/strong Bush by election day.
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2005, 08:31:16 pm »
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Nader has upset the democratic party. The democrats believe that Nader cost them the white house in 2000 and attempted to do so in 2004. His positions are far too extreme to win over republican support. He would lose in a landslide, pickin up only D.C and Massachusetts. If he had done this in 2000 he may have picked up California, Rhode Island, New Jersey, and Connecticut.
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« Reply #10 on: April 04, 2005, 05:00:35 pm »
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Nader has upset the democratic party. The democrats believe that Nader cost them the white house in 2000 and attempted to do so in 2004. His positions are far too extreme to win over republican support. He would lose in a landslide, pickin up only D.C and Massachusetts. If he had done this in 2000 he may have picked up California, Rhode Island, New Jersey, and Connecticut.

He only upset the Democrats AFTER 2000.  It would have been a different story if he actually was the Democratic nominee.  Remember, even Michael Moore was gunning for Nader originally.
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« Reply #11 on: June 06, 2005, 08:34:46 pm »
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I think what would have been interesting would have been a Nader campaign in the Democratic primaries.  He wouldn't have won... but I bet he could have drawn 12-20% in most every state and better in some states like CA, NH, etc.

Particularly interesting once Bradley had dropped out.
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« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2005, 02:07:11 pm »
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Quote from: Frente Farabundo Martí para la Liberación Nacional on March 12, 2005, 01:17:51 pm
oh yuck. I wouldn't vote for Nader any under circumstances.

So who would you have voted for?  I doubt the Republicans, which would leave nobody at all or a third party.  If the latter, that would be quite ironic, don't you think?
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« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2005, 02:19:18 pm »
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This story explains it!

I will start it up again, I took a way to long break from it. :p
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« Reply #14 on: May 29, 2006, 09:51:42 am »
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Quote from: skybridge on March 13, 2005, 04:35:29 am
This is supposed to be in 2000 when he did fairly well as a third party candidate.

How is 2% 'fairly well' when his predessor Ross Perot had garnered 19% in 92' and 8% in 96'. Considering, I would say that 2% is rather dismal.
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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2006, 10:59:32 am »
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Nader would lose in a landslide, he's just too liberal to do too well.
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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2006, 08:49:51 pm »
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Nader would have lost about 60-40 to Bush.
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2006, 06:07:03 pm »
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It depends really. Did 2000 happen or not? Because provided that it did, Democrats would just vote against him to be spiteful.
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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2006, 08:09:38 pm »
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Obviously after 2000, there is no way at all that Nader could have won the Democratic nomination. Realistically, there was no chance of him winning it even before 2000, but I think this scenario is assuming for the sake of argument that he wins the Dem nomination in 2000.
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2006, 09:12:43 pm »
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Quote from: Captain Vlad on May 29, 2006, 09:51:42 am
Quote from: skybridge on March 13, 2005, 04:35:29 am
This is supposed to be in 2000 when he did fairly well as a third party candidate.

How is 2% 'fairly well' when his predessor Ross Perot had garnered 19% in 92' and 8% in 96'. Considering, I would say that 2% is rather dismal.

But then again, when you look at the dozen or so parties that hardly get any votes at all, two percent of the vote seems enormous in proportion. It's really a matter of perspective.

Regardless, it's sad that the third place in a national election gets only 2% of the vote.
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2006, 10:22:41 pm »
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Regardless, it's sad that the third place in a national election gets only 2% of the vote.

Couldn't agree with you more. The third party movement has really went down hill. I still wish John Anderson hadn't screwed up his indy campaign...could have changed the face of politics.
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« Reply #21 on: July 24, 2006, 06:02:00 am »
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Quote from: skybridge on March 13, 2005, 04:35:29 am
This is supposed to be in 2000 when he did fairly well as a third party candidate.

in 2000, Nader was a candidate for the green party, that's a pretty big party i think.
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