Ukraine Crisis
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 17, 2024, 10:29:32 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  International General Discussion (Moderators: afleitch, Hash)
  Ukraine Crisis
« previous next »
Pages: 1 ... 4 5 6 7 8 [9] 10 11 12 13 14 ... 72
Author Topic: Ukraine Crisis  (Read 234479 times)
Zuza
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 359
Russian Federation
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #200 on: February 22, 2014, 04:31:30 PM »

I support whichever side is pro-civil unions ftr.

So in the Ukraine your candidate will be "againt all"...

(Though if any of the currently prominent Ukrainian politicians would ever support civil unions, most likely it would be Klichko, I suppose)
Logged
RogueBeaver
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,058
Canada
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #201 on: February 22, 2014, 04:35:01 PM »

Rada will vote for a PM tomorrow. Meanwhile journalists are combing through Yanukovych's residence, gathering all the documents he left behind.
Logged
Tetro Kornbluth
Gully Foyle
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,846
Ireland, Republic of


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #202 on: February 22, 2014, 04:39:07 PM »

I support whichever side is pro-civil unions ftr.

So in the Ukraine your candidate will be "againt all"...

(Though if any of the currently prominent Ukrainian politicians would ever support civil unions, most likely it would be Klichko, I suppose)

...
Logged
Middle-aged Europe
Old Europe
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,203
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #203 on: February 22, 2014, 04:48:04 PM »

The Euromaidan protests have become the Euromaidan Revolution today.
Logged
patrick1
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,865


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #204 on: February 22, 2014, 04:48:55 PM »

I support whichever side is pro-civil unions ftr.

So in the Ukraine your candidate will be "againt all"...

(Though if any of the currently prominent Ukrainian politicians would ever support civil unions, most likely it would be Klichko, I suppose)

Gully was making a wry statement on people transposing their own values and experiences on to a conflict which they have little understanding.
Logged
Middle-aged Europe
Old Europe
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,203
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #205 on: February 22, 2014, 04:55:15 PM »
« Edited: February 22, 2014, 06:55:24 PM by President of the BLAND Corporation »

It seems that some of the party of regions members voted for his removal.

36 yes votes came from the Party of Regions. To be precise, 36 yes votes from those who are still formally affiliated with the Party of Regions. The POR has currently 134 deputies left, a drop from 204 since the beginning of this year.

The majority of those who had left the POR in the last eight weeks and who are now "independents" voted for Yanukovych's removal as well.

http://w1.c1.rada.gov.ua/pls/radan_gs09/ns_golos?g_id=3863


Logged
Famous Mortimer
WillipsBrighton
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,010
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #206 on: February 22, 2014, 05:36:01 PM »
« Edited: February 22, 2014, 05:51:56 PM by WillipsBrighton »

I'm guessing Serhiy Tihipko will be the pro-Russian presidential candidate in the snap election.

Former head of the Bank of Ukraine. Former head of Labor Ukraine and Strong Ukraine, two explicitly left-wing pro-Russian political parties. Third place candidate (about 10%) after Yanukovych and Tymoshenko in the last election, joined POR shortly after.

Natalia Korolevska of Forward Ukraine is another possibility, although she's less explicitly pro-Russian and she lost a lot of clout when her party just barely failed to make it into parliament. She had been a member of the Tymoshenko bloc, first as part of Tymoshenko's Fatherland party, then as leader of a new Social Democratic Party of Ukraine. She pulled the Social Democrats out of the bloc so she could support the government. She's still a minor minister I think. She's also an oligarch herself.
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #207 on: February 22, 2014, 06:30:54 PM »

Ukrainian rabbi tells Kiev's Jews to flee city
Fearing violence against Ukraine's Jews, the Jewish community asks Israel for assistance with the security of the community.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/jewish-world-news/1.575732


I really hope that certain nice guys won't take an advantage of the situation

Logged
Famous Mortimer
WillipsBrighton
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,010
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #208 on: February 22, 2014, 06:40:41 PM »

"Correction (Feb. 22, 4:20 P.M.): An earlier version of this report incorrectly described Rabbi Azman as the chief rabbi of Ukraine. Azman is not the country's chief rabbi, but one of two rabbis challenging the official chief rabbi, Yaakov Bleich, in Kiev, and like most Chabad rabbis, is aligned with the Kremlin."
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #209 on: February 22, 2014, 06:45:50 PM »

"Correction (Feb. 22, 4:20 P.M.): An earlier version of this report incorrectly described Rabbi Azman as the chief rabbi of Ukraine. Azman is not the country's chief rabbi, but one of two rabbis challenging the official chief rabbi, Yaakov Bleich, in Kiev, and like most Chabad rabbis, is aligned with the Kremlin."

I saw that, but thing is still worth mentioning, esspecially given the certain elements' heavy presence on the streets as we speak.
Logged
Peeperkorn
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 1,987
Uruguay


Political Matrix
E: 0.65, S: -6.78

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #210 on: February 22, 2014, 06:50:41 PM »

Thousands Storm Viktor Yanukovych's Palace, Find His Private Zoo And Other Luxuries (PHOTOS)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/22/yanukovych-zoo-palace-ukraine_n_4838187.html
Logged
MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!
Kalwejt
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 57,380


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #211 on: February 22, 2014, 06:53:13 PM »


I guess we can all agree the man has no taste whatsoever Wink
Logged
True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
Ernest
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 42,156
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #212 on: February 22, 2014, 09:51:59 PM »

I'm just waiting for Thomas Freidman to weigh in with his lucid commentary, naturally.

He already "wrote" next week's column two months early. Wink

(Sadly, thomasfriedmanopedgenerator.com appears to be offline, hopefully just for the moment, so I had to link a cached copy of it from Google.)

Logged
Cory
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,708


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #213 on: February 22, 2014, 09:53:15 PM »

Cory, while you might think Ukraine to be a good case for a seminar on "Basics of Geopolitics", there are actually some here who know, and are concerned about, real people living there. Just imagine for a moment we wouldn't be talking Ukraine but Canada or Cuba instead, and consider whether in that case you would still stick to your statements.

Of course I would, and even more so as the stakes for America would be higher.
Logged
RogueBeaver
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,058
Canada
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #214 on: February 22, 2014, 10:48:51 PM »

Russian news apparently reporting that he's seeking asylum there.
Logged
Cory
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,708


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #215 on: February 22, 2014, 10:55:07 PM »

Russian news apparently reporting that he's seeking asylum there.

Where do you keep getting this? RT says the President isn't leaving and I haven't heard/seen any substantiation by major media outlets (Al-Jazeera/France 24/ect.).
Logged
RogueBeaver
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,058
Canada
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #216 on: February 22, 2014, 11:00:11 PM »

I got it from an expert I follow on Twitter. Unconfirmed for now. Any Russian-speakers here?
Logged
Mr. Morden
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 44,073
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #217 on: February 23, 2014, 06:18:53 AM »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26304129

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.
Logged
Antonio the Sixth
Antonio V
Atlas Institution
*****
Posts: 58,068
United States


Political Matrix
E: -7.87, S: -3.83

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #218 on: February 23, 2014, 06:32:34 AM »

Any news about Yanukovich? It'd be nice if they managed to arrest him before he flees to Russia.
Logged
Middle-aged Europe
Old Europe
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,203
Ukraine


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #219 on: February 23, 2014, 07:21:07 AM »

Any news about Yanukovich? It'd be nice if they managed to arrest him before he flees to Russia.

He's either north, west, east, or south of Kharkiv.
Logged
Pingvin
Pingvin99
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,761
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #220 on: February 23, 2014, 08:47:47 AM »

Dobkin had left the Ukraine yesterday.
Yanukovych tried to flee, but was stopped. Rumored location is Donetsk.
Logged
swl
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 581
France


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #221 on: February 23, 2014, 08:56:51 AM »

Hiw own party has now rejected Yanukovich:

Quote
You must be logged in to read this quote.

Logged
politicallefty
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 8,232
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -3.87, S: -9.22

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #222 on: February 23, 2014, 09:06:33 AM »

Any news about Yanukovich? It'd be nice if they managed to arrest him before he flees to Russia.

He's either north, west, east, or south of Kharkiv.

Am I the only one that can draw the parallels to Romania 1989?
Logged
Хahar 🤔
Xahar
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 41,731
Bangladesh


Political Matrix
E: -6.77, S: 0.61

WWW Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #223 on: February 23, 2014, 11:43:43 AM »

Any news about Yanukovich? It'd be nice if they managed to arrest him before he flees to Russia.

He's either north, west, east, or south of Kharkiv.

Am I the only one that can draw the parallels to Romania 1989?

You certainly can draw parallels, but they wouldn't really be appropriate.
Logged
they don't love you like i love you
BRTD
Atlas Prophet
*****
Posts: 112,935
Ukraine


Political Matrix
E: -6.50, S: -6.67

P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #224 on: February 23, 2014, 04:13:42 PM »

Will PoR survive? It's somewhat personalist.
Logged
Pages: 1 ... 4 5 6 7 8 [9] 10 11 12 13 14 ... 72  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.064 seconds with 12 queries.