Ukraine Crisis

[ag]

Will Putin soon address the crowds from a balcony in Sevastopol?

Once they deport the Tartars, I guess.

[Simfan34]

Russia Today: "Activists" block Ukrainian military from reaching Russian border

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http://rt.com/news/checkpoints-donbas-ukraine-military-458/

I suppose this is what was meant by "reading between the lines". Disturbing if it suggests that Russian forces are already deep in the rest of Ukraine.

[Simfan34]

"Mass rally in Red Square" (on a Tuesday!) to celebrate Crimea's "return" to Russia.



Lots of flags of the "Rodina" party and the old white-yellow-black flag used by right-wingers. Interesting combination...

[Middle-aged Europe]

A Ukrainian military base in Simforopol is reportedly under attack.

[Middle-aged Europe]

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https://twitter.com/IvanCNN

[Middle-aged Europe]

Interfax-Ukraine reports one Ukrainian soldier killed.

Ukrainian premier confirms attack.

[Middle-aged Europe]

"Today, Russian soldiers began shooting at Ukrainian servicemen and this is a war crime without any expiry under a statute of limitations." - Ukrainian prime minister Arseny Yatseniuk.

[Simfan34]

I'm trying to say something that isn't trite and unhelpful, but the only thing that comes to mind is "IT'S HAPPENING!". I'm interested in seeing what happens with regards to these claims of Eastern "volunteer militias".

[Silent Hunter]

"Today, Russian soldiers began shooting at Ukrainian servicemen and this is a war crime without any expiry under a statute of limitations." - Ukrainian prime minister Arseny Yatseniuk.

The thing with the Ukrainians is that they talk very tough, but everyone knows that they've got a two pair and Russia has an inside straight. They can't attack the Russian forces in Crimea without bringing down a devastating Russian response.

That said, they don't really need to; they can justifiably play the victim.

[Nhoj]

Trans-Dniester now wants in, logistically that would be harder obviously without anschluss of Odessa oblast first.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26627236

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Trans-Dniester now wants in, logistically that would be harder obviously without anschluss of Odessa oblast first.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26627236

Not the first time Transnistria expressed such interest.

[Хahar 🤔]

Sevastopol and Tavriya Simferopol plan to join the Russian Premier League.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

If Ukraine proper were to be split in two, what city is most likely to become capital of the eastern part?

If that happens, Moscow.

Within the terms of the question, Donetsk seems likelier than any other options.

Of the eastern cities, Kharkiv is, unquestionably, the most important. In fact, it was briefly the capital of Soviet Ukraine at one point.

I didn't know that. Interesting.

I'm not sure why I assumed Donetsk would be more important; possibly because it's got a lot of exposure lately in the sources that I've been reading.

[ag]

Sevastopol and Tavriya Simferopol plan to join the Russian Premier League.

I sincerely hope that once they do, Russia is expelled from the UEFA.

[Zanas]

Nagorny Karabakh is not a Russian puppet at all. It is not even quite an Armenian puppet, really - in any case, whatever it is, it is Armenian, not Russian.

While I agree it's not a Russian pupet at all, I think we can all safely say it is an Armenian puppet though.

Oh, and y'all : how did Hawaii get incorporated to the US in 1898 again ? How was that towards international law ?...

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Nagorny Karabakh is not a Russian puppet at all. It is not even quite an Armenian puppet, really - in any case, whatever it is, it is Armenian, not Russian.

While I agree it's not a Russian pupet at all, I think we can all safely say it is an Armenian puppet though.

Oh, and y'all : how did Hawaii get incorporated to the US in 1898 again ? How was that towards international law ?...

Not that Hawaii was any less justified, but international law was meaningless back then, and even still, Russia annexed their way across Asia and Eastern Europe before and after the revolution.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fzLtF_PxbYw

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

Conservapedia states that the reason for the vote was because of Russia's anti homesexuality laws...

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

Conservapedia states that the reason for the vote was because of Russia's anti homesexuality laws...

Will you quit bringing up Conservapedia like its the actual voice of the Tea Party?

[MaxQue]

http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

Conservapedia states that the reason for the vote was because of Russia's anti homesexuality laws...

Will you quit bringing up Conservapedia like its the actual voice of the Tea Party?

Well, it's the job of the Republicans to keep check on their crazies and block them from acceding elective office.

Looking at people like Foxx and Gohmert, you failed.

[IceSpear]

http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

Conservapedia states that the reason for the vote was because of Russia's anti homesexuality laws...

Will you quit bringing up Conservapedia like its the actual voice of the Tea Party?

Well, it's the job of the Republicans to keep check on their crazies and block them from acceding elective office.

Looking at people like Foxx and Gohmert, you failed.

True. It's very rare that True Leftists get into Congress (like Cynthia McKinney and Dennis Kucinich), but right wing nutjobs seem to have a fairly easy time getting in.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

Conservapedia states that the reason for the vote was because of Russia's anti homesexuality laws...

Will you quit bringing up Conservapedia like its the actual voice of the Tea Party?

Well, it's the job of the Republicans to keep check on their crazies and block them from acceding elective office.

Looking at people like Foxx and Gohmert, you failed.

True. It's very rare that True Leftists get into Congress (like Cynthia McKinney and Dennis Kucinich), but right wing nutjobs seem to have a fairly easy time getting in.

please let's not make this another hack thread about US politics, k?

back on topic, is there no representation in the Crimean parliament for non-Russian ethnics?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

Conservapedia states that the reason for the vote was because of Russia's anti homesexuality laws...

Will you quit bringing up Conservapedia like its the actual voice of the Tea Party?

Well, it's the job of the Republicans to keep check on their crazies and block them from acceding elective office.

Looking at people like Foxx and Gohmert, you failed.

True. It's very rare that True Leftists get into Congress (like Cynthia McKinney and Dennis Kucinich), but right wing nutjobs seem to have a fairly easy time getting in.

please let's not make this another hack thread about US politics, k?

back on topic, is there no representation in the Crimean parliament for non-Russian ethnics?

There is no assigned ethnic representation.  Back in the 2010 Crimean elections, the Party of Regions won 80 of the 100 seats and Strong Ukraine which later merged into it won 2 seats. The Russian Unity Party (which advocated reunification with Russia) won another 3 seats and the Communists 5 seats.  Qurultai-Rukh, which is a Tatar ethnic party and the Union Party (which advocated closer EU ties but also adding Russian as a second official language for Ukraine) each won 5 seats.  So even without the latest round of shenanigans there was at least a 90-10 split in favor of Russia assuming everyone in the Party of Regions has gone along with the Anchluss.  Possibly 95-5 depending upon how the Union Party decided to go on the Anchluss issue.

So the strong support in the Crimean Parliament for the Anchluss is not really due to opponents being excluded.  There hasn't been a need for that as there effectively was no opposition, even before all this started.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Incidentally, the Crimea parliament was elected from 50 single-member constituencies, and another 50 elected by proportional representation with an apparent 2 member threshold.  The PR was only for the 50 seats, not for topping off and evening out the results of the constituency votes.

[ag]

http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page

Conservapedia states that the reason for the vote was because of Russia's anti homesexuality laws...

Will you quit bringing up Conservapedia like its the actual voice of the Tea Party?

Well, it's the job of the Republicans to keep check on their crazies and block them from acceding elective office.

Looking at people like Foxx and Gohmert, you failed.

True. It's very rare that True Leftists get into Congress (like Cynthia McKinney and Dennis Kucinich), but right wing nutjobs seem to have a fairly easy time getting in.

please let's not make this another hack thread about US politics, k?

back on topic, is there no representation in the Crimean parliament for non-Russian ethnics?

The non-Russian MPs were barred from the Crimean Parliament the first day that the "unknown" armed men appeared on the peninsula. At this point they, probably, do not even want to attend, in any case.