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« Reply #1075 on: March 20, 2014, 09:16:47 AM »

This comment on Estonia is just what it is : Putin trolling the West hard saying "I did f[inks] you in the ass hard, didn't I ?"

Now back to where things happen, as Kalwejt said.
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« Reply #1076 on: March 20, 2014, 11:30:56 AM »

I'm quite amused with the Russian pulling out a Kosovo precedent (which they opposed so strongly), considering their action was pretty much a naked annexation. The whole "declaration of independence for a few hours before merging" wouldn't fool a second grader.

And that's coming from someone who was highly sceptical about the way Kosovo seceded.

This comment on Estonia is just what it is : Putin trolling the West hard saying "I did f[inks] you in the ass hard, didn't I ?"

Yep. It's not like the Russians weren't making a loud noises about Estonia before.
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« Reply #1077 on: March 20, 2014, 12:53:11 PM »

Russia's legal case in the declaration of independence (which lasted all of a day) is dubious at best, yes.
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« Reply #1078 on: March 20, 2014, 02:11:02 PM »

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/21/us/politics/us-expanding-sanctions-against-russia-over-ukraine.html?_r=0

US places sanctions on more top Russian aides, and also Bank Rossiya. Rumors are that the energy sector could be next.

Putin retaliates with sanctions on Harry Reid, John Boehner, John McCain and six other Americans.
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« Reply #1079 on: March 20, 2014, 02:42:41 PM »

Qatar 2022. And, well, no. As we type stadiums are being built by slaves.

an article broke the other day that between 900-1200 'migrant workers' have already died on World Cup-related construction projects.  if we extrapolate the death toll should reach 4000 by 2022.
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« Reply #1080 on: March 20, 2014, 02:51:34 PM »

Russia still doesn't recognize kosovo, I am not sure how you can use something for precedent that you on paper still oppose.
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« Reply #1081 on: March 20, 2014, 02:53:07 PM »

Russia still doesn't recognize kosovo, I am not sure how you can use something for precedent that you on paper still oppose.

Of course you can, provided you don't care about being a hypocrite. Do you think Putin cares?
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« Reply #1082 on: March 20, 2014, 03:26:44 PM »

Sanctions on John McCain!!1 Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1083 on: March 20, 2014, 04:25:52 PM »

Russia still doesn't recognize kosovo, I am not sure how you can use something for precedent that you on paper still oppose.

Of course you can, provided you don't care about being a hypocrite. Do you think Putin cares?
Well no. Tongue
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« Reply #1084 on: March 20, 2014, 05:33:18 PM »

Well, yesterday was a good day to leave Estonia!
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« Reply #1085 on: March 21, 2014, 09:45:40 AM »

France is ready to send fighters and AWACS to Poland and Baltic countries.
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« Reply #1086 on: March 21, 2014, 08:17:47 PM »

It looks like Crimea is going to retain it's republic status within Russia. Will it be the only republic with a Russian majority?

Also, Sevastopol is going to be a federal city, which puts it on par with Moscow and St. Petersburg.

No, about half the Republics have a Russian majority. Say, Karelia does.

It is likely to be the only Republic without a native minority: Tartars are evacuating their families.

"Ukraine’s breakaway region of Crimea will ask Tatars to vacate part of the land where they now live in exchange for new territory elsewhere in the region, a top Crimean government official said Tuesday."

"Part".

"Elsewhere".

http://en.ria.ru/world/20140319/188544777/Crimean-Tatars-Will-Have-to-Vacate-Land--Official.html
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« Reply #1087 on: March 21, 2014, 09:47:46 PM »

It looks like Crimea is going to retain it's republic status within Russia. Will it be the only republic with a Russian majority?

Also, Sevastopol is going to be a federal city, which puts it on par with Moscow and St. Petersburg.

No, about half the Republics have a Russian majority. Say, Karelia does.

It is likely to be the only Republic without a native minority: Tartars are evacuating their families.

"Ukraine’s breakaway region of Crimea will ask Tatars to vacate part of the land where they now live in exchange for new territory elsewhere in the region, a top Crimean government official said Tuesday."

"Part".

"Elsewhere".

http://en.ria.ru/world/20140319/188544777/Crimean-Tatars-Will-Have-to-Vacate-Land--Official.html

A lot of Crimean families have already moved or are moving to the mainland (both Tartar and Slavic). Actually, it seems like Lviv is going to bear the brunt of resettlement - voluntarily.
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« Reply #1088 on: March 21, 2014, 09:59:43 PM »

"Crimean Tatar squatters"

"Illegal immigrant Bengalis"

"Foreign Ethiopian oppressors"

etc, etc.
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« Reply #1089 on: March 22, 2014, 12:06:20 AM »

It looks like Crimea is going to retain it's republic status within Russia. Will it be the only republic with a Russian majority?

Also, Sevastopol is going to be a federal city, which puts it on par with Moscow and St. Petersburg.

No, about half the Republics have a Russian majority. Say, Karelia does.

It is likely to be the only Republic without a native minority: Tartars are evacuating their families.

"Ukraine’s breakaway region of Crimea will ask Tatars to vacate part of the land where they now live in exchange for new territory elsewhere in the region, a top Crimean government official said Tuesday."

"Part".

"Elsewhere".

http://en.ria.ru/world/20140319/188544777/Crimean-Tatars-Will-Have-to-Vacate-Land--Official.html

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« Reply #1090 on: March 22, 2014, 10:35:21 AM »

And to think the Russians have the Gaul to call the Ukrainians "fascists".
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« Reply #1091 on: March 22, 2014, 11:20:30 AM »

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« Reply #1092 on: March 22, 2014, 11:41:54 AM »

And to think the Russians have the Gaul to call the Ukrainians "fascists".

Putin do look a bit like Vercingoterix.
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« Reply #1093 on: March 22, 2014, 11:42:52 AM »

And to think the Russians have the Gaul to call the Ukrainians "fascists".

Putin do look a bit like Vercingoterix.

But surely he was taller?
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« Reply #1094 on: March 22, 2014, 12:44:14 PM »

And to think the Russians have the Gaul to call the Ukrainians "fascists".

Putin do look a bit like Vercingoterix.

But surely he was taller?

Vercingoterix, not Asterix.
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« Reply #1095 on: March 22, 2014, 01:06:10 PM »

And to think the Russians have the Gaul to call the Ukrainians "fascists".

Putin do look a bit like Vercingoterix.

But surely he was taller?

Vercingoterix, not Asterix.

Asterix would be more Putin's height, I think.
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« Reply #1096 on: March 22, 2014, 01:18:32 PM »

perhaps Putin wants to divide Ukraine into three parts.
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« Reply #1097 on: March 22, 2014, 02:46:53 PM »

I'm at Ukraine now in a hotel ery close to Maidan. Barricades remain and lot of men in camouflaged uniform. Many people selling souvenir and lot of comparisons of Putin and Russians with nazis.
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« Reply #1098 on: March 22, 2014, 06:19:32 PM »

Looks like the last Ukrainian base has fallen. I wonder what will happen next.
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« Reply #1099 on: March 22, 2014, 07:38:22 PM »

perhaps Putin wants to divide Ukraine into three parts.

I appreciate this post.
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