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« Reply #1100 on: March 22, 2014, 09:56:14 PM »

Looks like the last Ukrainian base has fallen. I wonder what will happen next.

In Crimea? Nothing. Well, a few tens of thousands refugees will resettle on the mainland, but who cares.

Next act will be elsewhere.
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« Reply #1101 on: March 23, 2014, 12:20:29 AM »

Two Ukrainian solders married each other right before their base was taken over by Russian soldiers.

http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/headlines/2014/03/ukrainian-soldiers-tie-the-knot-just-before-crimean-airbase-stormed/


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« Reply #1102 on: March 23, 2014, 08:22:38 PM »

Eastern Ukrainians rally for secession.
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« Reply #1103 on: March 23, 2014, 10:04:09 PM »


I hear that if you ask the demonstrators the time, quite a few have it exactly two hours too fast. A remarkable technical malfunction, I say.
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« Reply #1104 on: March 24, 2014, 08:53:24 AM »

Living at the moment quite close to the eastern border, I can see and hear NATO fighters flying every day. 


Well, that'd be much harder than pulling Crimea.
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« Reply #1105 on: March 24, 2014, 05:32:47 PM »

G8 has officially moved its annual summit in June from Sochi to Brussels, and they un-invited Russia.
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« Reply #1106 on: March 24, 2014, 06:31:58 PM »

At first glance it seems odd that Crimea will be moving their clocks ahead two hours.  Granted, the change in time zone is one more way of emphasizing they are not Ukraine, but a change of one hour would accomplish that.  However Russia for some weird reason is on permanent daylight savings, so if they only shifted one hour they'd be sharing the same time as Ukraine during the summer.  So instead of having a time zone close to solar time, the Crimea will be close to two hours ahead because of stupid politics that will keep them from having a reasonable time zone.
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« Reply #1107 on: March 24, 2014, 09:02:44 PM »

Putin do look a bit like Vercingoterix.

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« Reply #1108 on: March 24, 2014, 11:13:09 PM »

Tymoshenko advocated mass slaughter of Russians in leaked phone call.
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« Reply #1109 on: March 25, 2014, 12:01:40 AM »


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In any case, even if it weren't a Russian fake, Yulia ain't in power.
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« Reply #1110 on: March 25, 2014, 09:09:30 AM »

Can people please posting RT-links? It's not a credible source.

And yeah, dramatic event today. Can't say I feel sad to see the guy go though. Also seems to dispel this notion that the Ukrainian government is fascist or propped up by these people.
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« Reply #1111 on: March 25, 2014, 10:53:38 AM »

Government is purging Right Sector earlier than expected. May be they fear that their actions are counterproductive. Another reason are elections. They fear Yarosh and because many say that.Poroshenko sponsor it, Baktvischina, Svoboda and.UDAR want to get rid of a enemy.
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« Reply #1112 on: March 25, 2014, 11:14:27 AM »

Also seems to dispel this notion that the Ukrainian government is fascist or propped up by these people.

Maybe...but then again, Svoboda still is very much a part of the government. Tongue
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« Reply #1113 on: March 25, 2014, 11:42:45 AM »

Also seems to dispel this notion that the Ukrainian government is fascist or propped up by these people.

Maybe...but then again, Svoboda still is very much a part of the government. Tongue

In the cabinet, they control the ministries of environment and agriculture... and are probably pushing for a fascist agriculture policy for Ukraine or something.
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« Reply #1114 on: March 25, 2014, 08:11:38 PM »


This kind of thing is troubling. It shows how disconnected from reality the Russian leadership is. There's no way any serious person would believe this stuff.
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« Reply #1115 on: March 26, 2014, 12:06:43 AM »

This kind of thing is troubling. It shows how disconnected from reality the Russian leadership is. There's no way any serious person would believe this stuff.

It's not intended to convince us but the Russian people.  The more I read about this, the more I'm convinced that this was planned to distract the Russian people from their faltering economy.  Not that it was faltering badly, but Putin has good reason to be concerned about what even a slight falter might do to his popularity.  Now the economic problems can be blamed on the West, so I don't see Tsar Vladimir V being persuadable by the sanctions.
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« Reply #1116 on: March 26, 2014, 12:13:06 AM »

This kind of thing is troubling. It shows how disconnected from reality the Russian leadership is. There's no way any serious person would believe this stuff.

It's not intended to convince us but the Russian people.  The more I read about this, the more I'm convinced that this was planned to distract the Russian people from their faltering economy.  Not that it was faltering badly, but Putin has good reason to be concerned about what even a slight falter might do to his popularity.  Now the economic problems can be blamed on the West, so I don't see Tsar Vladimir V being persuadable by the sanctions.
That's Tsar Vladimir IV: His Imperial Majesty doesn't recognize the usurper False Vladimir.
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« Reply #1117 on: March 26, 2014, 01:32:57 AM »

This kind of thing is troubling. It shows how disconnected from reality the Russian leadership is. There's no way any serious person would believe this stuff.

It's not intended to convince us but the Russian people.  The more I read about this, the more I'm convinced that this was planned to distract the Russian people from their faltering economy.  Not that it was faltering badly, but Putin has good reason to be concerned about what even a slight falter might do to his popularity.  Now the economic problems can be blamed on the West, so I don't see Tsar Vladimir V being persuadable by the sanctions.
That's Tsar Vladimir IV: His Imperial Majesty doesn't recognize the usurper False Vladimir.

I wasn't counting Vladimir Cyrillovich Romanov as Vladimir IV, but Vladimir Lenin.
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« Reply #1118 on: March 26, 2014, 09:55:29 AM »

Both in Kharkiv and in Odessa the pro-Russian crowds have been demonstrating at Polish consulates under the slogan: "Remember Katyn massacre". Beauty, isn't it? Almost as good as the Germans demonstrating near Israeli embassies in Prague and Warsaw chanting "remember Auschwitz" (in German)

And yes, I know what they the slogan-writers meant. But still...
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« Reply #1119 on: March 26, 2014, 12:35:40 PM »

Both in Kharkiv and in Odessa the pro-Russian crowds have been demonstrating at Polish consulates under the slogan: "Remember Katyn massacre". Beauty, isn't it? Almost as good as the Germans demonstrating near Israeli embassies in Prague and Warsaw chanting "remember Auschwitz" (in German)

And yes, I know what they the slogan-writers meant. But still...

I don't get the use of strikethroughs here.
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« Reply #1120 on: March 26, 2014, 01:27:18 PM »

He's using it as a way of showing a hypothetical equivalent.
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« Reply #1121 on: March 26, 2014, 02:03:35 PM »

At first I thought this was an Onion article, but it isn't:

Russia has successfully annexed the Ukrainian Crimea and stormed its neighbor's naval bases there, but it may have seized its biggest prize this week -- an elite combat unit of trained dolphins.

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/russia-ukraine-combat-dolphins

My only question is: Were the dolphins seized, or did the dolphins consciously defect to Russia?
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« Reply #1122 on: March 26, 2014, 03:58:08 PM »

He's using it as a way of showing a hypothetical equivalent.

That I under stand, the usage of sttiketrouhjys Idont
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« Reply #1123 on: March 26, 2014, 04:32:48 PM »

He's using it as a way of showing a hypothetical equivalent.

That I under stand, the usage of sttiketrouhjys Idont

http://www.nhs.uk/actfast/Pages/stroke.aspx
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« Reply #1124 on: March 27, 2014, 05:11:43 AM »

I have a question : of the few countries that recognized the legitimacy of the referendum, I get why most of them did (eg : Venezuela, Syria etc.), but why in the world would Uganda do it ? Is there something I don't know ? Do they also have an irredentist region in a neighboring country that they would very much like to seize ?
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