Ukraine Crisis

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Well, the sh**t has really hit the fan...











At least 5 dead as we speak.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkzi6-zz55M

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4EH4KRGzhhQ

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QI7IIUsoEFQ

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And the sh**t is hitting the fan once again...

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Yes, I'm sure some of the neo-Nazi protesters occupying government buildings will do a fine job.

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The region of Lviv has apparently sort of seceded:

The Western region of Lviv has reportedly declared independence from Ukraine in a potential breakthrough of the anti-government protests in the country.

Hours after protesters seized the prosecutor's office in central Lviv, the executive committee of the region council - also called the People's Rada – claimed control over the region.

"The regime has begun active military action against people [...] Dozens of people have been killed in Kyiv and hundreds have been wounded [...]Fulfilling the will of society, the executive committee of the Lviv region's council, the People's Rada, is assuming full responsibility for the fate of the region and its citizens," reads a statement.

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/ukraine-facing-civil-war-lviv-declares-independence-yanukovich-rule-1437092

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Yanukovich says on live tv that he is not resigning.

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Pics from Yanukovich's residence:







Private zoo:

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Tymoshenko leaving the prison:

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Putin orders ‘combat readiness’ tests for western, central Russian troops

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Country invades a foreign nation to protect its fellow countrymen and the rest of the world is just sitting on their asses. Welcome to Munich 38.

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One thing's for sure though...after this a majority of Ukrainians will never again allow their country to fall under Russia's sphere of influence.

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Being under Merkel's sphere of influence isn't much better.

Yes cause German troops are rolling thru the streets of Athens. :hündinbitte:

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Except that while Russia is stuck in the 19th century, most of Europe has moved on and is not about to invade the Motherland.

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Very much relevant to this thread.

Well, I wish this guy was president.

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Plus there are rumblings in Riga, Vilnius with the ethnic russians.

There are virtually no ethnic Russians in Lithuania, so try again.

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I think there is alot of ignorance on here. Ukrainians and Russians view each other as brothers and sisters. They both dont want to fight, they both dont want to shoot bullets at each other.

Donetsk, Kharkiv and Crimea want russian troops in  the country. Its like the falkland islands, gibraltor for the British. If the russians went back, the ethnic russians would feel terrified.

Ignorance? Last I checked Gibraltar and the Falklands were British while eastern Ukraine most certainly is not Russian.

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Over 5% of the Lithuanian population is not much, as in other post-Soviet countries, but that's hardly virtually none.

Well, there are more Poles in LT than Russians. Arguing that Russians are causing trouble in Vilnius and that this could precipitate another intervention is like saying that Turkish protests in Germany could cause Erdogan to act.

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I think there is alot of ignorance on here. Ukrainians and Russians view each other as brothers and sisters. They both dont want to fight, they both dont want to shoot bullets at each other.

Donetsk, Kharkiv and Crimea want russian troops in  the country. Its like the falkland islands, gibraltor for the British. If the russians went back, the ethnic russians would feel terrified.

Ignorance? Last I checked Gibraltar and the Falklands were British while eastern Ukraine most certainly is not Russian.

I'm pretty sure the troll meant there is a substantial number of ethnic Russians there and the region is trending toward Moscow.

Yes but that doesn't change the fact that the comparison makes no sense seeing as the Falklands war was a war waged by Britain to defend their own territory. This little detail separates that armed conflict from today's

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95.5 percent for union with Russia. Most impressive.

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Will Putin soon address the crowds from a balcony in Sevastopol?

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Baja California sounds like a good alternative as well.

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I have a question : of the few countries that recognized the legitimacy of the referendum, I get why most of them did (eg : Venezuela, Syria etc.), but why in the world would Uganda do it ? Is there something I don't know ? Do they also have an irredentist region in a neighboring country that they would very much like to seize ?

United in their struggle against homosexuality?

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I'm going to leave this here

Without hindsight, Obama was certainly right at the time and I'm still wondering how Romney arrived at the conclusion that Russia is America's "geopolitical foe no. 1". If anything, you had to name China from a 2012 perspective.

Or maybe Romney just had a modicum of foresight.