Ukraine Crisis

[Nhoj]

It seems that some of the party of regions members voted for his removal.

[Nhoj]

It's not going to end well for the ethnic minorities in Crimea...

I'm far more concerned for the non-Ukrainians in Ukraine.

Vladimir Zhirinovsky has been running about Crimea and the current premier of Crimea got 4% in the last elections.[he was installed by the forces occupying its parliament. ] So well you should probably fear for non Ukrainians in Ukraine, you should also fear for non Russians in Crimea.

[Nhoj]

Lithuania might be claiming that their security is threatened I suppose or maybe they have a treaty with Ukraine. I agree it doesn't make sense.

Edit: well a NATO meeting does make sense just not by article 4.

[Nhoj]

30 minutes ago:

It translates to something like this: "Three former Ukranian Presidents, Leonid Kravchuk, Leonid Kuchma and Víktor Yúschenko has asked the Kiev Paliament the military movilization of the country. "We have to be prepared to defend our Motherland" wrote in a text in Ukraínskaya Pravda."

Kuchma is a surprise, as he was a pro-Russia hero.

he denounced yanukovych pretty early in the protests.

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http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/newsdesk/2014/03/who-will-protect-the-crimean-tatars.html

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Trans-Dniester now wants in, logistically that would be harder obviously without anschluss of Odessa oblast first.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26627236

[Nhoj]

Russia still doesn't recognize kosovo, I am not sure how you can use something for precedent that you on paper still oppose.

[Nhoj]

Russia still doesn't recognize kosovo, I am not sure how you can use something for precedent that you on paper still oppose.

Of course you can, provided you don't care about being a hypocrite. Do you think Putin cares?

Well no.

[Nhoj]

Considering the political views of many orthodox saints would he be so wrong....

[Nhoj]

As for the talking points it gives to Putin... Listen, Putin, would be declaring Mahatma Gandhi and Winston Churchill fascists today, if that were to suite him.

Churchill, in fairness, was one of the worst mass murderers of the 20th century depending on how responsible you hold him for the Bengal famine and for the various unnecessary and ineffective British strikes on civilian targets in occupied Europe (as opposed to the more effective American bombing campaigns).

That however does not make him a fascist.

[Nhoj]

They are perfectly believable... seeing as the only people voting were probably fans of the whole thing or feared for their safety if they voted otherwise. Wouldn't surprise me if they softened the result even. Of course the turnout numbers are BS.

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http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28177020

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Russia has unilaterally moved its "humanitarian convoy" into ukraine. The chances of the war becoming official has gone way up. All it will take is for "ukrainians" to bomb it.

[Nhoj]

Russia has unilaterally moved its "humanitarian convoy" into ukraine. The chances of the war becoming official has gone way up. All it will take is for "ukrainians" to bomb it.

They already bombed another Russian convoy last week.

That was one of the many undeclared military convoys, not to mention there is no proof that ukraine actually hit it chances are it was bluster. This is russias official white humanitarian trucks now.

[Nhoj]

So yesterday the Ukrainians claimed to have captured Russian paratroopers and today the Russian MoD confirmed that they were indeed Russians. Naturally they claimed that they accidentally crossed the border. So either Russian paratroopers are idiots or Russia's excuses continue to get thinner.