Ukraine Crisis

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Guys, stop bullsh**tting about this sh**t. People are dying.

Lots of people as well...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

I know you'll find it very difficult to do this, but, please, please, please, please stop being a c-nt.

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Different subspecies of reprobate, I fear.

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Fine, whatever. You are a very clever little boy. HAVE A GOLD STAR!!!!11

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Will PoR survive? It's somewhat personalist.

Actually the Party of Regions was extremely well organized when you compare it to the various parties of power under Kuchma and Yushchenko.

And it isn't as though President Waxwork had much of a personality...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The new Ukrainian government is basically a coalition of Yulia Tymoshenko's Batkivshchyna party and the nationalist Svoboda...

...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

But these people are actual Nazis.

And to pick up on just one specific point, this is an overtly antisemitic political party - that used to have an actual period Nazi emblem as its logo: I wish I was making this up but I'm not - in a country that has, how shall we say, not exactly fessed up to the less than heartwarming role that many of its people had in the Holocaust.

Perhaps it is 'tactically sound' (but aren't there points even further down the Nazi road of crazy than Svobada? What if these 'moderate' Nazis start losing votes to less 'moderate' Nazis?) but there are limits, surely...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Still, all the seriously scary stuff aside, you have to be amused at the hilarious lack of consistency in the reporting of everything that's going on. One minute the Western media is very much in favour of revolutionary mobs seizing control of government buildings and so on, and now suddenly they are not so keen on the idea. And the same is true (in perfect reverse) for the Russian media.

Shocking, I tell you, shocking.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

The new Head of the Ukrainian Navy has sworn an oath of allegiance to Crimea.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Irritation at the excesses of much of the Western media coverage is fine, but I'm sure you can express that without parroting Russian propaganda.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

This thread is rapidly turning into as much of a catastrophe as the current political situation in Ukraine.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Kalwejt is spot on.

and on the back of ethnic Russians...

That, at least, is completely irrelevant to his status as an 'innocent party' or otherwise...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Now here's a tough question: is there a single politician in Ukraine - of any persuasion - who isn't a complete idiot?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Very much relevant to this thread.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

We should certainly use this crisis as an excuse to seize the property of oligarchs in London.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It would also help to (start to) solve the housing crisis in London, much of which is caused by people such as those using the city as a fycking monopoly board.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

It is already.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Also, has everyone seen the final wording of the Crimea referendum? Beyond being vague, it's literally meaningless. To paraphrase: Crimea is independent but it is part of Ukraine by virtue of agreements.

Huh?

No matter if "yes" or "no" wins, the Russians can claim their side won.

"Oh, they said 'no' that means Crimea did not agree to be part of Ukraine"

"Oh, they said 'yes' that means Crimea is free to declare independence"

Obviously both answers could also be interpreted as pro-Ukrainian as well

Perhaps they were inspired by the PQ.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Let's... direct the conversation back on topic...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Er... it's FIFA.

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Qatar 2022. And, well, no. As we type stadiums are being built by slaves.

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gall

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And to think the Russians have the Gaul to call the Ukrainians "fascists".

Putin do look a bit like Vercingoterix.

But surely he was taller?

[Filuwaúrdjan]

And to think the Russians have the Gaul to call the Ukrainians "fascists".

Putin do look a bit like Vercingoterix.

But surely he was taller?

Vercingoterix, not Asterix.

Asterix would be more Putin's height, I think.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

He's using it as a way of showing a hypothetical equivalent.