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Yeahsayyeah
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« on: March 04, 2014, 08:51:17 AM »

I hope, the warmongering in this thread is not representative for anyone. It would be worse than the current Russian 19th century imperialist acting that is going on.
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Yeahsayyeah
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« Reply #1 on: March 04, 2014, 09:08:55 AM »

Not actually suggesting we do it but maybe the US and NATO should send some troops into Georgia at their request to take back the lands that Russia illegally took from them?
Despite that in 2008 Georgia was the agressor and the land was not controlled by Georgian government, anyway.
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Yeahsayyeah
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« Reply #2 on: March 04, 2014, 09:21:00 AM »

Want to get China on our side? Promise them all of Siberia if they would side with us against Russia if it were to actually come to anything. If it was the US/Europe/China/Japan agianst Russia they would probably be more likely to back down.

Offer to just let Russia keep Crimea, most of the citizens want it and allow the ones that don't to leave in peace, but Russia shouldn't be allowed to take half the country or more, which is what they want.

Today Crimea, tomorrow Berlin. Just remember that.
Have you ever heard of this obscure tiny organization called NATO, that Germany is a member of?
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Yeahsayyeah
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« Reply #3 on: March 04, 2014, 09:55:53 AM »

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I am aware of the huge ethnic conflicts and cleansings throughout the Kaukasus. If we go by nationalist arguments (which is quite en vogue in this thread and at other examples like Tibet) there have not been many Georgians in Abkhazia before the end of the 19th century so this was due to later Georgization and Russification and ethnic/religious cleansing on behalf of religion. After the fall of the Russian Empire Georgian nationalists claimed and occupied these territories in 1918.have not accepted Abkhazian and Ossetian wishes for independence (neither did the Bolsheviki, of course, and Stalin's minority policies is a chapter of his own, especially in the Caucasus, in an divide et impera manner.
As ethnicity concepts and alliances have often chancged in the Kaukasus and Saakashwilli is a corrupt and diehard nationalist of its own merit the Russia is allways bad and the others are always good" dichotomy is probably not the best way to describe ethnic conflicts, there.

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Although the try to abolish Russian as official language was surely not the smartest move by the Rada, especially as one of the first measures, it seems clear that Russia is agressive conerning the status of Crimea. Strawman detected.
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Yeahsayyeah
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2015, 02:35:06 PM »

I always wondered what a Sjuganow government would have looked like.
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