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Question: Do you support allowing juvenile execution?/Do you support allowing execution of the mentally retarded?
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« on: March 12, 2005, 04:56:33 PM »

Option 5 for me.

If you believe this is a states' rights issue, vote what you would want in your own state.
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« Reply #1 on: March 12, 2005, 05:05:12 PM »

Option 5.  Juvelines, like EVERYONE ELSE, have rights even when convicted guilty.  Age is not a factor.

Executing mentally retarded people?  Sounds like something Governor George W. Bush would do.
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« Reply #2 on: March 12, 2005, 05:12:23 PM »

If a retarded person knifed my sister, he damn well better be put to death.
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« Reply #3 on: March 12, 2005, 05:19:25 PM »

If a retarded person knifed my sister, he damn well better be put to death.
What if your sister knifed a retarded person?  Does she get put to death?

(I'm assuming your sister is not a child here.)
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« Reply #4 on: March 12, 2005, 05:21:08 PM »

Of course. What kind of question is that?
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« Reply #5 on: March 12, 2005, 05:23:13 PM »

Juvenilles in some cases should be executed, though not all(age matters somewhat, I wouldn't execute an 8 year old).

The mentally retarded are, well, mentally retarded - things are different for them. If they prove to be a danger to others, institutionalize them to prevent them from doing harm.
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« Reply #6 on: March 12, 2005, 05:25:47 PM »

Dude, it's not as if you can commit murder by just being a typical retard. You obviously had evil intent.
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« Reply #7 on: March 12, 2005, 05:31:15 PM »

Of course. What kind of question is that?
Just testing whether or not you make exceptions for family members.
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« Reply #8 on: March 12, 2005, 05:33:02 PM »

Of course. What kind of question is that?
Just testing whether or not you make exceptions for family members.

Well, obviously I wouldn't want my sister put to death, but it's equally obvious that family shouldn't get to decide the penalty.

I wouldn't want my sister getting thrown in jail.
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« Reply #9 on: March 12, 2005, 05:34:28 PM »

Dude, it's not as if you can commit murder by just being a typical retard. You obviously had evil intent.

The workings of the minds of retarded people can vary from ours greatly. The workings of right and wrong may be very different for them. Imagine if you would, someone with an adult body but the mental capacity of a five year old - I've seen some five year olds get violent and hit people during temper tantrums, but it's usually harmless because they have normal strength. Imagine if that five year old had a violent tantrum and the strength of a full grown man. Messy results. Would you execute a five year old in such a situation?

Of course, I'm willing to look at it from a case to case basis - say, a Forrest Gump type retarded person, who just has low mental capacity but clearly understands the difference between right and wrong and that you shouldn't kill, I would consider it, but there are other cases where I just really couldn't.
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« Reply #10 on: March 12, 2005, 08:38:09 PM »

Course, a crime is a crime.  If you shoot a cop at the age of 15, you know better, and if you are smart enough to kill someone by planning it, you should die also.
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« Reply #11 on: March 12, 2005, 08:51:09 PM »

if you are smart enough to kill someone by planning it, you should die also.

Yes, yes.  Thank you, Jake.  Finally we agree on something.
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« Reply #12 on: March 12, 2005, 08:52:34 PM »

Yes/Yes.
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« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2005, 09:01:47 PM »

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« Reply #14 on: March 12, 2005, 09:02:27 PM »

option five.  capital punishment is one of the few societal values that I think exceeds even feminism and affirmative action in its potential to demoralize.
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