The Sage Garden

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The favorite of the forum Democrats (and real Democrats to an even greater extent) in 2016 seems to be former First Lady/CarpetbaggerSenator/Secretary of State Hillary Clinton. Given her name recognition and the fact that she's admittedly done a good enough job as SoS, this current frontrunner status is natural. A lot could change over four years, but it seems likely that she will be in the public eye of speculation for at least the next two years (if she chooses not to run).

I've made it apparent before, but I do not support Hillary Clinton. Though Obama was at least perceived as a progressive and may yet move a little left in his second term, Clinton seems to be fairly "moderate" on domestic policy. If her husband is any indication (plus, you know, the 2008 campaign), she's at best a centrist and at worst a mainstream European conservative. In an effort to counter the crypto-fascist trend of the Republican Party since Reagan, Democratic politicians including Gary Hart and the Clintons have advocated retaining (or doubling down on) cultural liberalism while moving towards a neoliberal economic position.

Though big money has done a good job hiding it, the new attitude of unrestricted free trade, austerity, deregulation, and privatization has fundamentally failed, yet the Democratic Party has failed to move towards sensible leftism on anything besides same-sex marriage and possibly immigration. Obama is being tarnished as a "socialist" at the bare minimum for being marginally to the left of Bill and Hillary.

I will concede that Hillary Clinton would not really be different from Obama in terms of her policy as hypothetical president. If she's the nominee, I'd probably vote for her, and she'd probably be at least an okay president. So what really got me mad? Her supporters. In the forum, in the media (I could make a second rant about how all the liberal talking heads, even the so-called "progressives", are shilling her as much as possible and failing to talk to any Democrat who isn't also on board), and with most of the Democrats I meet. Every other new topic in the 2016 boards is about her.

When anyone, Democratic, Republican, or Independent, says anything remotely negative, they're faced with a swarm of mindless drones, many of whom probably viscerally opposed Hillary's 2008 run (for good reason). The enthusiasm of their support when Obama's second term has just started really reminds me of the hordes of Ron Paul supporters we thankfully won't have to deal with again.

My advice to the Clintards? Before mindlessly jumping on the bandwagon that the voice on the TV is telling you to jump on, take a good look at Hillary's record in the Senate, her statements during the 2008 campaign (also remember that her campaign was the first to dig up the birther crap). If you're still a Hillary supporter, then at least you have something to back it up with.

The first known sage from our Dear Leader.

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What is sage?

Pseudo-intellectual edginess.

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The stupidest? Well, once I may have said it is unfortunate the USSR did not emerge from the Cold War as the world's sole superpower. Also, along similar lines, I may have once lamented that with no Soviet Union left to challenge the U.S. there is no longer much hope for the U.S. to be defeated in arms and its downtrodden workers liberated.

Glad to see Redalgo's at least moved on from sage.

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Yeah, doesn't seem edgy enough to me.

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Boring and full of Nazis, so like Idaho without the partial redeeming feature that is potatoes.

I'm now in full support of reinstating the ban on sight policy.

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And on a lighter note,

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Is it acceptable to call him Generalissimo Rajoy?

No context needed. Still sage.

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FF. Religion is just for people who cannot handle the truth.

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Anyone who wastes their time watching TV shows is an intellectual lightweight. Read a f**king book!

Gentlemen, I have been outsaged.

Nothing will ever beat cogendism. Not RosettaStoned's euphoria, KRich's right-sage, the various libertarian edginess, or you talking about whatever crisis of the hour the world's facing.  Cogendism is the sagest thing ever created.

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More proto-sage.

People like some Atlas liberals are part of the reason why we've been losing the South. Look at Arkansas; they still have New Deal infrastructure in place and are solidly Democratic at a local and state level. Though some of the blame lies on some Blue Dogs being crybabies, some of it does lie on the rise of the DLC and the Democratic Party's abandonment of its history from 1832 to 1980 as the party of the working man to instead be the party of yuppies and women.

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Hatred for old/disadvantaged people+desire to destroy labor+constitutional ineligibility (I don't believe that rats are allowed to be elected president)=failure.

The first known example on the forum ever.

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Successful in expanding American hegemony abroad and continuing/accelerating the transfer of wealth and power to the upper crust, yes.

The bigger the words, the bigger the truths.

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Abrahamic Slave Morality.

Also this.

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HP even without the rape. Actually, I'd say he raped developing countries.

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IRC quotes are practically cheating, though.

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That is equality before the law. In my criticisms, I've tried to include the terms objectively and 'in all cases' to qualify my position. I do not believe that equality is objectively a bad thing, things like simple equality in the courts are by and large good things. However, my beef is with this idea that equality is some kind of 'light upon the hill', a societal state that should be promoted and striven for. We are not all equal, we are rendered different by circumstances of our birth, abilities, and, yes, occasionally the patronage that we may have received in life. Its not just things like equality before the law that flow from the broader idea of 'equality', no, there is a whole stream of BS that flows from it, from 'equality of outcomes' to the use of the phrase 'because equality'. I take issue with this idea that all humans, by simple virtue of their humanity and nothing else, are automatically able to access a laundry list of 'rights'. No, no, no I say enough. What 'rights' we have, or as I might call them 'privileges', are the gift of the state, the Church, whatever organisational unit we happen to be dealing with. We should mold ourselves to these boundaries, not expect them to fit us perfectly.

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Thanks for saving me the effort of quoting.

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Fwiw its true. Why bother trying to be wise? It hurts the head.

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You reap what you sow. No one should be surprised by this, seeing as these are teens who have spent their entire lives in the world's largest outdoor prison.

Generally speaking, the only people who sow and reap are the ordinary people.

Israel is not Lord Voldemort - they cannot cast the Imperius curse on these people. They have a choice on how to respond and it's a pity they keep choosing the wrong response.

How would you respond to a strip of land run by an insane death cult that trains its citizens to commit mass murder-suicide and lobs rockets at Israeli civilians?

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Russia's trend towards reactionary nationalism is the direct result of shock therapy imposed by the Western puppet Yeltsin and Clinton breaking his promise to not expand NATO so as to surround and directly menace Russia.

Sage isn't determined by whether something's true, but the size of the truths.

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The Master Class wants people competing for the jobs that others already have so that it can make the workplace far more brutal and far less remunerative.

Unemployment insurance came into existence during the Great Depression in part to protect existing workers from losing jobs to the unemployed.

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The Master Class wants people competing for the jobs that others already have so that it can make the workplace far more brutal and far less remunerative.

Unemployment insurance came into existence during the Great Depression in part to protect existing workers from losing jobs to the unemployed.

He's right though? High unemployment results in reducing bargaining power for workers, which allows employers to pay less and have fewer worker protections, etc.

Of course his tone is too sage-y, that's true.

Not repeating myself.

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Overall I have to lean towards HI because chivalry is, at its heart, basically for making privileged young men into warlords who are willing to unquestioningly submit and be loyal to authority figures claiming to be in service of a deity's will.

The more FI elements of chivalry promote almost unconditional compassion and generosity, respect for the disadvantaged in society, modesty, politeness, courage in convictions, and personal dedication to achieving moral excellence.

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You know the deal.