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« on: March 13, 2005, 04:08:26 AM »
Last time I checked, there  were 35 members of the AFDNC. Now many prominant Democrat have defected:

Gabu to IL
TrueDem to IL
Nym to FL

etc... Is this party dying?
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« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2005, 04:17:04 AM »
Yep. Scandal after scandal is killing it. Like water torture.
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« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2005, 09:10:53 AM »
Harry also left for Farm-Labour.

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« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2005, 10:50:47 AM »
Yep, I think it's dead.
That's why I bailed.  Sorry to anyone who's left.
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« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2005, 10:52:32 AM »
Quote from: Franklin D. Roosevelt on March 13, 2005, 04:08:26 AM
Last time I checked, there  were 35 members of the AFDNC. Now many prominant Democrat have defected:

Gabu to IL
TrueDem to IL
Nym to FL

etc... Is this party dying?

It died two weekends ago.
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« Reply #5 on: March 13, 2005, 12:45:28 PM »
If the party is dead, could anybody still in officially disband it and have all their members become auto-Independents?  I hate having to list dead parties. Wink
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« Reply #6 on: March 13, 2005, 01:10:34 PM »
Quote from: Secretary King on March 13, 2005, 12:45:28 PM
If the party is dead, could anybody still in officially disband it and have all their members become auto-Independents?  I hate having to list dead parties. Wink

Their pocket voters are still on the rolls, you can't disband the party.
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« Reply #7 on: March 13, 2005, 01:23:33 PM »
Actually, the AFDNC was dying well before the Akno tapes were released. The D and R's will always be very strong when the centrist parties collapse, and as the Freedom, Farmer-Labor, and Union got stronger, they attracted members from both sides. We lost MAS and Redefeat to the Union, Al to FL, etc. Not all was scandal related, though much of it was. Our strength was overstated, it was only a matter of time. There's not enough room for a liberal-moderate party, which we were.
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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2005, 01:29:04 PM »
Quote from: Akno21 on March 13, 2005, 01:23:33 PM
Actually, the AFDNC was dying well before the Akno tapes were released. The D and R's will always be very strong when the centrist parties collapse, and as the Freedom, Farmer-Labor, and Union got stronger, they attracted members from both sides. We lost MAS and Redefeat to the Union, Al to FL, etc. Not all was scandal related, though much of it was. Our strength was overstated, it was only a matter of time. There's not enough room for a liberal-moderate party, which we were.

No, you died because everyone came to view the party as corrupt.  The ILP is flourishing, simply because they are Democrats without the label. There will always be a leftist party, and for now that is the ILP.
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« Reply #9 on: March 13, 2005, 01:30:03 PM »
Quote from: Jake on March 13, 2005, 01:29:04 PM
Quote from: Akno21 on March 13, 2005, 01:23:33 PM
Actually, the AFDNC was dying well before the Akno tapes were released. The D and R's will always be very strong when the centrist parties collapse, and as the Freedom, Farmer-Labor, and Union got stronger, they attracted members from both sides. We lost MAS and Redefeat to the Union, Al to FL, etc. Not all was scandal related, though much of it was. Our strength was overstated, it was only a matter of time. There's not enough room for a liberal-moderate party, which we were.

No, you died because everyone came to view the party as corrupt.  The ILP is flourishing, simply because they are Democrats without the label. There will always be a leftist party, and for now that is the ILP.

The AFDNC has historically been better off the fewer big parties there are.
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« Reply #10 on: March 13, 2005, 02:00:02 PM »
Yep.  Huzzah!
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« Reply #11 on: March 13, 2005, 03:06:30 PM »

I'm an Independent, not an Independent Liberal.

I wonder how many more times I'm going to have to say that. Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: March 13, 2005, 03:31:52 PM »
Quote from: Senator Gabu, PPT on March 13, 2005, 03:06:30 PM
I'm an Independent, not an Independent Liberal.

No, you are wrong:  Gabu is a Liberal Independent, not an Indepedent or Indepedent Liberal.
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« Reply #13 on: March 13, 2005, 03:40:31 PM »
Quote from: Secretary King on March 13, 2005, 03:31:52 PM
Quote from: Senator Gabu, PPT on March 13, 2005, 03:06:30 PM
I'm an Independent, not an Independent Liberal.

No, you are wrong:  Gabu is a Liberal Independent, not an Indepedent or Indepedent Liberal.

Oh, sorry, I forgot.  I need to read more of that Gabu guy's posts; I don't know much about him.
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« Reply #14 on: March 13, 2005, 06:37:51 PM »
Quote from: Senator Gabu, PPT on March 13, 2005, 03:40:31 PM
Quote from: Secretary King on March 13, 2005, 03:31:52 PM
Quote from: Senator Gabu, PPT on March 13, 2005, 03:06:30 PM
I'm an Independent, not an Independent Liberal.

No, you are wrong:  Gabu is a Liberal Independent, not an Indepedent or Indepedent Liberal.

Oh, sorry, I forgot.  I need to read more of that Gabu guy's posts; I don't know much about him.

If you find out anything, tell me! Especially since I'm running against him... ;-).
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« Reply #15 on: March 13, 2005, 06:44:35 PM »
Quote from: Senate Candidate DanielX on March 13, 2005, 06:37:51 PM
Quote from: Senator Gabu, PPT on March 13, 2005, 03:40:31 PM
Quote from: Secretary King on March 13, 2005, 03:31:52 PM
Quote from: Senator Gabu, PPT on March 13, 2005, 03:06:30 PM
I'm an Independent, not an Independent Liberal.

No, you are wrong:  Gabu is a Liberal Independent, not an Indepedent or Indepedent Liberal.

Oh, sorry, I forgot.  I need to read more of that Gabu guy's posts; I don't know much about him.

If you find out anything, tell me! Especially since I'm running against him... ;-).

You should be running against Ilikeverin.  He's actually pretty vulnerable, unlike Gabu (who JFK would probably have a tough time beating right now)
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« Reply #16 on: March 13, 2005, 08:26:07 PM »
Who's in my party anymore--big names-wise?
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« Reply #17 on: March 13, 2005, 08:28:32 PM »
Quote from: ian on March 13, 2005, 08:26:07 PM
Who's in my party anymore--big names-wise?

Nobody. Not a single person in the government and not a single person who has been in office. The biggest person currently in the party is Josh, who was D1 Senate candidate in February.
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« Reply #18 on: March 13, 2005, 08:32:21 PM »
Quote from: ian on March 13, 2005, 08:26:07 PM
Who's in my party anymore--big names-wise?

There is no one in your party big names wise.
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« Reply #19 on: March 13, 2005, 09:55:28 PM »
Quote from: AFCJ KEmperor on March 13, 2005, 08:32:21 PM
Quote from: ian on March 13, 2005, 08:26:07 PM
Who's in my party anymore--big names-wise?

There is no one in your party big names wise.

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Do we have a chairman anymore...?
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« Reply #20 on: March 13, 2005, 09:56:48 PM »
Quote from: ian on March 13, 2005, 09:55:28 PM
Quote from: AFCJ KEmperor on March 13, 2005, 08:32:21 PM
Quote from: ian on March 13, 2005, 08:26:07 PM
Who's in my party anymore--big names-wise?

There is no one in your party big names wise.

Sad
Do we have a chairman anymore...?

You could join the Independent Liberals.
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« Reply #21 on: March 13, 2005, 09:59:28 PM »
Quote from: Jake on March 13, 2005, 09:56:48 PM
Quote from: ian on March 13, 2005, 09:55:28 PM
Quote from: AFCJ KEmperor on March 13, 2005, 08:32:21 PM
Quote from: ian on March 13, 2005, 08:26:07 PM
Who's in my party anymore--big names-wise?

There is no one in your party big names wise.

Sad
Do we have a chairman anymore...?

You could join the Independent Liberals.

No thanks.  I will stay with my ship until it (officially) goes under.
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« Reply #22 on: March 13, 2005, 10:00:06 PM »
Quote from: ian on March 13, 2005, 09:55:28 PM
Quote from: AFCJ KEmperor on March 13, 2005, 08:32:21 PM
Quote from: ian on March 13, 2005, 08:26:07 PM
Who's in my party anymore--big names-wise?

There is no one in your party big names wise.

Sad
Do we have a chairman anymore...?

The last chairman was Akno, and he left... I dunno who it is now.
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« Reply #23 on: March 13, 2005, 11:13:24 PM »
Quote from: Senator Gabu, PPT on March 13, 2005, 10:00:06 PM
Quote from: ian on March 13, 2005, 09:55:28 PM
Quote from: AFCJ KEmperor on March 13, 2005, 08:32:21 PM
Quote from: ian on March 13, 2005, 08:26:07 PM
Who's in my party anymore--big names-wise?

There is no one in your party big names wise.

Sad
Do we have a chairman anymore...?

The last chairman was Akno, and he left... I dunno who it is now.

Then True Democrat, then Harry. It should be Josh, he was vice before Harry left.
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« Reply #24 on: March 13, 2005, 11:24:33 PM »
Quote from: Akno21 on March 13, 2005, 11:13:24 PM
Then True Democrat, then Harry. It should be Josh, he was vice before Harry left.

You mean when he was elected by a mere 3 members of the Democratic Party out of 25+?
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