would you support an amdt. to constitution that bans the sale & ownership of

[© tweed]

actually I'll go no on balance since the idea of using the constitution to prohibit the normal person from doing something offends me.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

I support an amdt. to the constitution that bans the sale & ownership of people.  That is the only amdt. banning sale & ownership of anything that I would support.  and we already have one.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'd find it a bit extreme, but BY FAR preferable to the status quo.

[Franzl]

I'd find it a bit extreme, but BY FAR preferable to the status quo.

Pretty much.

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I'd find it a bit extreme, but BY FAR preferable to the status quo.

Pretty much.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Hell to the no.

[ElectionsGuy]

Fuck no!

Hell to the no.

Absolutely not

NO

Handguns?  Are you f[inks]ing kidding me?

No (pro-freedom)

That's actually a more stupid idea than the 18th amendment.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

I honestly don't get how anyone can believe that a ban on handguns will make handguns more difficult to obtain than how difficult it is to obtain marijuana now (that being not difficult at all.)

[Okay, maybe Mike Johnson is a competent parliamentarian.]

I would prefer a clean repeal of the Second Amendment.

This would obviously be a much better idea. Just make it subject to statue law like anything else.

[dead0man]

I honestly don't get how anyone can believe that a ban on handguns will make handguns more difficult to obtain than how difficult it is to obtain marijuana now (that being not difficult at all.)

Can you grow a handgun?

Growing weed is easier, for sure, but any machinist worth his salt can make a handgun.  A crappy, dangerous (to the user) handgun, but a handgun none-the-less.

But most illegal weed (AFAIK) is imported not grown in a basement, so it's not a great comparison anyway.

[Donerail]

I honestly don't get how anyone can believe that a ban on handguns will make handguns more difficult to obtain than how difficult it is to obtain marijuana now (that being not difficult at all.)

Can you grow a handgun?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberator_(gun)

Yes.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Certainly not.

[Oakvale]

Obviously.

edit: ITT - MURICA.

[Associate Justice PiT]

I honestly don't get how anyone can believe that a ban on handguns will make handguns more difficult to obtain than how difficult it is to obtain marijuana now (that being not difficult at all.)

     For that matter, consider how well Prohibition worked out. History does not bear out an argument that banning handguns would be successful.

[bedstuy]

I honestly don't get how anyone can believe that a ban on handguns will make handguns more difficult to obtain than how difficult it is to obtain marijuana now (that being not difficult at all.)

     For that matter, consider how well Prohibition worked out. History does not bear out an argument that banning handguns would be successful.

US firearm deaths per 100,000: 10.3
UK firearm deaths per 100,000: .25
Italy firearm deaths per 100,000: 1.28
Canada firearm deaths per 100,000: 2.38

Other industrialized nations regulate firearms far more stringently and they have far less gun violence.  We have a long way to go culturally and in terms of urban violence, but it's not surprising that regulation actually works when implemented in a smart way.

[Sopranos Republican]

Fuck no!

No (pro-freedom)

[Associate Justice PiT]

I honestly don't get how anyone can believe that a ban on handguns will make handguns more difficult to obtain than how difficult it is to obtain marijuana now (that being not difficult at all.)

     For that matter, consider how well Prohibition worked out. History does not bear out an argument that banning handguns would be successful.

US firearm deaths per 100,000: 10.3
UK firearm deaths per 100,000: .25
Italy firearm deaths per 100,000: 1.28
Canada firearm deaths per 100,000: 2.38

Other industrialized nations regulate firearms far more stringently and they have far less gun violence.  We have a long way to go culturally and in terms of urban violence, but it's not surprising that regulation actually works when implemented in a smart way.

     Key term is "culturally". Or to consider along the lines of what I was talking about before, banning alcohol was an unmitigated disaster while banning lots of other drugs fared better. Firearms restrictions would probably have some effect, but cross-national comparisons are inane when the countries being compared are so different in regards to gun culture.

[bedstuy]

I honestly don't get how anyone can believe that a ban on handguns will make handguns more difficult to obtain than how difficult it is to obtain marijuana now (that being not difficult at all.)

     For that matter, consider how well Prohibition worked out. History does not bear out an argument that banning handguns would be successful.

US firearm deaths per 100,000: 10.3
UK firearm deaths per 100,000: .25
Italy firearm deaths per 100,000: 1.28
Canada firearm deaths per 100,000: 2.38

Other industrialized nations regulate firearms far more stringently and they have far less gun violence.  We have a long way to go culturally and in terms of urban violence, but it's not surprising that regulation actually works when implemented in a smart way.

     Key term is "culturally". Or to consider along the lines of what I was talking about before, banning alcohol was an unmitigated disaster while banning lots of other drugs fared better. Firearms restrictions would probably have some effect, but cross-national comparisons are inane when the countries being compared are so different in regards to gun culture.

Comparing one nation to another is inane, but comparing a weapon to a beverage makes sense?

[Indy Texas]

That has got to be one of the most retarded proposals I have read on this forum.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

No (sane).

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

Of course I do.

[TNF]

That has got to be one of the most retarded proposals I have read on this forum.

Don't worry, I'm sure more will crop up shortly.

[Antonio the Sixth]

LOL @ the outrage, and ROLF @ the left-wing outrage. Oh no, banning guns, so terrible.

[Franzl]

LOL @ the outrage, and ROLF @ the left-wing outrage. Oh no, banning guns, so terrible.

It's a cultural thing. I don't really understand it either.

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

LOL @ the outrage, and ROLF @ the left-wing outrage. Oh no, banning guns, so terrible.

It's a cultural thing. I don't really understand it either.

I'm from rural America and don't understand it. It's fun to shoot a gun but if you're concerned about constructing responsible public policy, it's quite clear that gun ownership is a terrible vice and a not a virtue. It's amazing to me that a few pulls of the trigger is sufficient to cloud people's judgement on this issue...

I understand liberals being aghast at this proposal but leftists? What is wrong with you people, we're supposed to believe that the idea of "negative liberties" grounded in 18th century classical liberal thought are nonsense...