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« on: December 11, 2013, 02:32:43 AM »
« edited: December 11, 2013, 04:50:21 AM by badgate »

Obviously we don't want to clog up the "Post random maps here" thread. I also had the idea of maybe having a one-post timeline challenge based on the results of our game. If anybody wants to try that, go for it. Be creative. I'm going to try writing one tomorrow.

Link to the game: http://www.americanhistoryusa.com/campaign-trail/

Link to the Off Topic thread: https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=182692.0


edited to add: Please mark results that were achieved by intentionally sabotaging your character's campaign.
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« Reply #1 on: December 11, 2013, 03:00:34 AM »

1968


Vice President Hubert H. Humphrey / Oklahoma Senator Fred Harris - 439 (48.22%, 35,336,881)
Frmr. Vice President Richard Nixon / Maryland Governor Spiro Agnew - 54 (38.87%, 28,482,890)
Alabama Governor George Wallace / General Curtis LeMay - 45 (12.91%, 9,457,438)


My best Humphrey result  99.7th percentile.







My best Bryan result. 99.9th percentile.



I'm not very good at Obama bc I always want to make him say what I want him to say.
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« Reply #2 on: December 11, 2013, 06:47:13 AM »
« Edited: December 26, 2013, 05:46:52 PM by SoIA Superique »

2012 - Meh Romney wins!


270 to win

Fmr. Governor Mitt Romney (R-MA)/ Senator Robert Portman (R-OH): 315 EVs - 49,98% (65,330,124)
President Barack Obama (D-IL)/ Vice-President Joe Biden (D-DE): 223 EVs - 48,35% (63,196,873)
Fmr. Governor Gary Johnson (L-NM)/ Jurist James P. Gray (L-CA): 0 EVs - 1,34% (1,746,541)
Physician Jill Stein (G-MA)/ Anti-Poverty Advocate Cheri Honkala (G-MN) 0 EVs - 0,34% (439,584)

Just changed the hole campaign of Mitt Romney. Instead of just bashing Obama, I tried to send a beautiful conservative message of Optimism, being a little bit vague sometimes, while keeping with a social conservative position on many issues. Focused a lot in the Midwest and in the Rust Belt and picked Portman to lock Ohio. There were things pretty strange in that map. Gary Johnson did pretty well in that game (3,27% in Nevada/ 4,34% in New Mexico/ 2,49% in Colorado) and New York was a close state (Obama: 51.22%/Romney: 47.05%/Johnson: 1.38%/Stein: 0.35%).

Here there's a list of the closest states:
1.Virginia (Romeny 49.44%/ Obama 49,22%)
2.Florida (Meh Romeny 50,02%/ Obama 48,81%)
3.New Hampshire (Romney 50,15%/ Obama 48,37%)
4.Iowa (Romney 50,27%/Obama 48,29%)
5.Colorado (Romney 49,60%/ Obama 47,59%)
6.Delaware (Obama 50,36%/Romney 48,11%)
7.Pennsylvania (Romney 50,62%/ Obama 48,16%)
8.Wisconsin (Romney 50,58%/ Obama 47,98%)
9. Nevada (Obama 49,73%/ Romney 48,62%)
10. New York (Obama 51,22%/ Romney 47,05%)

(NJ,MI,MT,MN,MO) were also close.

Best States:
Obama - D.C (88,71%)
Romney - Utah (69,97%)
Johnson - New Mexico (4,34%)
Stein - D.C (1,65%)


Oh! Romney did better than McCain in Arizona! (60,11%)

80 something percentile
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« Reply #3 on: December 11, 2013, 06:48:16 AM »
« Edited: December 11, 2013, 05:09:34 PM by SoIA Superique »


1896 Elections - Changing History


224 to win

HR William Jennings Brian (D-NE)/ Governor Claude Mathews (D-IN): 234 EVs -51.07% (7,116,089)
Governor William McKinley (R-OH)/ Garret Hobart (R-NJ): 213 EVs - 47,98% (6,685,030)
Governor John M. Palmer (ND-IL)/ Governor Simon B. Bolivar (ND-KY): 0EV - 0,95% (131,985)

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« Reply #4 on: December 11, 2013, 08:22:29 AM »
« Edited: December 11, 2013, 05:09:06 PM by SoIA Superique »

Not as nice and Not as Good but...

Dixie takes the 1968 Election! Chaos in America! Mission Accomplished!



Fmr. VP Richard Nixon (R-NY)/ Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD): 267 EVs - 42.91% (31,477,106)
VP Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/ Governor Edmund Muskie (D-ME): 217 EVs - 43.09% (31,603,585)
Governor George Wallace (AI-AL)/ Senator Strom Thurmond (R-SC): 53 EVs - 14% (10,270,119)

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« Reply #5 on: December 11, 2013, 10:16:46 AM »
« Edited: December 11, 2013, 05:13:39 PM by SoIA Superique »

Now it's time to stop this! I'm getting too addicted to it...

Humphrey Wins! Truman-like!



Fmr. VP Richard Nixon (R-NY)/ Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD): 211 EVs - 42.83% (31,339,053)
VP Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/ Governor Edmund Muskie (D-ME): 282 EVs - 44.22% (32,356,905)
Governor George Wallace (AI-AL)/ General Curtis LeMay: 45 EVs - 12.94% (9,469,677)

This was a nice one... I played with Hubert Humphrey thousands of time until I was able to get the best strategy. I ran like a moderate on Vietnam trying to distance myself from Lyndon Johnson while not supporting any irresponsible withdrawn, supported the Great Society legacy and my record on Labor Unions and Civil Rights. I have also stressed my support for desegregation but my commitment to law enforcement. Unlike other games, I started pretty well, I made Nixon appear and loose at the debate, choose Muskie to help me on the North and started to win traction, I recovered votes from Wallace and did a good Convention Speech. I tried to fight on many states but I've only visited two southern states Missouri and Texas (Florida I don't recall). Unfortunately, you can't know how your adversaries campaigned but I think that they just stood on the issues as they really stood.

At the middle of the campaign, there were many battle ground states, even in the South, and Texas, Michigan and New York were lean democratic. California was my last attempt of having more electoral votes and, despite loosing there, I feel that it gave me a boost in the West...

As always, here there's a list of the closest states

1. Oregon: Humphrey 47.42% - 382,389/ Nixon 47.15% - 380,170/ Wallace 5.43% - 43,785
2. Delaware: Humphrey 44.92% - 96,031/ Nixon 44.61% - 95,373/ Wallace 10.47% - 22,372
3. New Jersey: Nixon 45.73% - 1,314,506/ Humphrey 44.79% -1,287,646/ Wallace 9.48% - 272,491
4. Nevada: Humphrey 47.09% - 71,856/ Nixon 45.78 - 69,871/ Wallace 7,13% - 10,882
5. Florida: Nixon 37.73% - 827,565/ Humphrey 36.07% - 798,695/ Wallace 26.56% - 588,063
6. Washington: Humphrey 47.35% - 627,288/ Nixon 45.63% - 604,620/ Wallace 7.02% - 93,012
7. Alaska: Humphrey 44.45% - 37,429/ Nixon 42.54% - 35,825/ Wallace 13.01% - 10,958
8. Ohio: Humphrey 47.01% - 1,846,571/Nixon 44.94% - 1,765,239/ Wallace 8.06% - 316,446
9. California: Nixon 47.34% - 3,396,087/ Humphrey 45.24% - 3,245,248/ Wallace 7.42% - 531,927
10.New York: Humphrey 47.91% - 3,192,669/ Nixon 45.75% - 3,048,840/ Wallace 6.34% - 422,832
11.Kentucky: Nixon 42.64% - 456,121/ Humphrey 40.28% - 430,902/ Wallace 17.08% - 182,741
12.Washington: Humphrey 48.71% - 818,358/ Nixon 45.96% - 772,171/ Wallace 5.32% - 89,422
13.South Carolina: Nixon 35.37% - 238,488/ Wallace 33.15% - 223,537/ Humphrey 31.48% - 212,232
14.Missouri: Humphrey 44.04% - 783,211/ Nixon 41.24% - 733,375/ Wallace 14.71% - 261,624
15.Illinois: Humphrey 47.57% - 2,205,991/ Nixon 44.51% - 2,064,027/ Wallace 7.92% - 367,161

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« Reply #6 on: December 11, 2013, 04:02:54 PM »

Romney Wins!

Mitt Romney/Rob Portman    321    65,083,096    49.61%   
Barack Obama/Joe Biden    217    63,966,512    48.76%
Gary Johnson    0    1,647,774    1.26%
Jill Stein    0    483,143    0.37%

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« Reply #7 on: December 11, 2013, 04:26:15 PM »



Got this 377-161 win with Romney. It was a short, 13 question game with Pawlenty as my running mate. I ran mostly center-left on the issues, supporting eventual expiration of the Bush tax cuts and civil unions. I don't remember most of the details but I got into about the 99.6th percentile.
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« Reply #8 on: December 11, 2013, 04:37:12 PM »



Got this 377-161 win with Romney. It was a short, 13 question game with Pawlenty as my running mate. I ran mostly center-left on the issues, supporting eventual expiration of the Bush tax cuts and civil unions. I don't remember most of the details but I got into about the 99.6th percentile.

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« Reply #9 on: December 11, 2013, 04:50:32 PM »
« Edited: December 11, 2013, 10:27:18 PM by Pessimistic Antineutrino »

Wallace the Puppetmaster



Fmr. VP Richard Nixon (R-NY)/ Governor Spiro Agnew (R-MD): 257 EVs - 42.85% (31,362,942)
VP Hubert Humphrey (D-MN)/ Governor Edmund Muskie (D-ME): 217 EVs - 43.00% (31,471,977)
Governor George Wallace (AI-AL)/ Senator Strom Thurmond (R-SC): 64 EVs - 14.14% (10,349,547)

Played Wallace and got my best result ever, managed to deadlock the EC by stealing SC and TN at the last minute and giving IL to Humphrey. Got 99.5th percentile, which is pretty nice.
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« Reply #10 on: December 11, 2013, 05:02:21 PM »

I tried to this once, but I got Tennessee and lost SC. Then, in another situation, I won SC and loose TN... =(
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« Reply #11 on: December 13, 2013, 01:06:01 PM »



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« Reply #12 on: December 13, 2013, 04:36:34 PM »



Fmr. Governor William McKinley (R-OH)/ Speaker of the House Thomas B. Reed (R-ME): 313 EVs - 53.04% (7,413,288)
Fmr. Representative William Jennings Bryan (D-NE)/ Mr. Arthur Sewall (D-ME): 134 EVs - 45.95% (6,421,670)
Fmr. Senator John Palmer (ND-IL)/ Fmr. Governor Simon B. Buckner 64 EVs (ND-KY): 0 EVS - 1.02% (141,899)
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« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2013, 04:54:54 PM »

Just for a laugh, I ran a game as Romney.



What have I done.
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« Reply #14 on: December 16, 2013, 02:38:00 AM »
« Edited: December 16, 2013, 12:25:36 PM by tb78 »



William McKinley               232    6,247,937    44.72%
William Jennings Bryan           215    7,293,151    52.20%
John Palmer                          0      431,690    3.09%


I played as McKinley and lost the PV by 8%. I decided to let Palmer run against Bryan in the south, hence why it was so low. He ended up with only 3% nationally, Bryan powned him everywhere, the most he got was around 24%. That was a major bust for sure.

I lost Indiana and Kentucky out of nowhere and thought I was going to lose, but I held on and won somehow.
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« Reply #15 on: December 16, 2013, 03:15:36 PM »

Here's another 2012 scenerio, really close margin:



Barack Obama    285    65,543,358    50.21%
Mitt Romney    253    62,633,715    47.98%
Gary Johnson 0       1,886,580     01.45%
Jill Stein           0       483,155        00.37%


Played as Romney, made him more center based and less distant. Picked Pawlenty as the VP, and stood more of a chance in the mid west.  Made some gaffes which prob cost me the election, but I managed to win two of the big power states thanks to a campaign that was promising change and attacking Obama for his errors more than in RL.

I focused on the southern states and Ohio.  I went to Pennsylvania a couple of times and Minnesota/Nevada once.  On election day I focused on Florida,Virginia, and NC, but I lost Virgina while winning the rest, including Ohio by 2% and Florida by less than a point. 

Despite making errors with Penn and Virginia, Gary Johnson in particular cost me Colorado, Iowa, and Nevada. Nevada in particular was won by Obama by less than 1,000 votes.  Colorado was won by Barry by 56,000 and Iowa by 44,002 votes.  Johnson in at least two had enough votes that I could have won with. Johnson is regarded as the ultimate Ralph Nader figure in this election, and the Libertarians are enemies of the Republicans.
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« Reply #16 on: December 16, 2013, 06:43:17 PM »
« Edited: December 16, 2013, 06:53:48 PM by Yeahsayyeah »

I still have no idea how to do Nixon 68 properly. So what would be considered as a moderate conservative with a strong pro-war stance does not work, at least if the debade is effed up...

Humphrey: 33,460,834 - 45,70% - 398 EV
Nixon: 28,215,015 - 38,53% - 63 EV
Wallace: 11,544,211 - 15,77% - 76 EV

Lost Oklahoma by about 5500 Votes, Vermont by 2000, New Jersey by 28000, VIrginia by 30000, North Carolina by 34000



The state, that would have gotten me over 270, Ohio, was lost 40,7-48.
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« Reply #17 on: December 16, 2013, 07:28:04 PM »

Okay, I think I got it: Nixon/Romney - 45,9% of the popular vote, 416 EV

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« Reply #18 on: December 16, 2013, 07:46:00 PM »

Nixon was not pro-war in 68, only in 1972...
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« Reply #19 on: December 16, 2013, 09:22:30 PM »



Hubert Humphrey: 35,191,091 - 48.27% - 438 EV
Richard Nixon: 28,199,120 - 38.73% - 54 EV
George Wallace: 9,464,789 - 13.00% - 45 EV

So yeah, I kinda, you know, kicked ass here. Tongue 99.7 percentile. Ranking? #30. Heeelllll yeah.
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« Reply #20 on: December 16, 2013, 09:43:36 PM »

Congrats! The webmaster still hasn't e-mailed me back about whether any new election years will be added.
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« Reply #21 on: December 16, 2013, 10:20:39 PM »

Congrats! The webmaster still hasn't e-mailed me back about whether any new election years will be added.

If we could get '92...I would die...
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« Reply #22 on: December 16, 2013, 10:25:07 PM »

Congrats! The webmaster still hasn't e-mailed me back about whether any new election years will be added.

If we could get '92...I would die...

I would love '92 with all 3 options, 2000, 1980, and 1912.
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« Reply #23 on: December 17, 2013, 01:32:10 AM »

Congrats! The webmaster still hasn't e-mailed me back about whether any new election years will be added.

I would love '92 with all 3 options, 2000, 1980, and 1912.

Those will be killer for sure. Especially if the option to run as an Independent is included more, 1968 was the only one where you could do so.

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« Reply #24 on: December 17, 2013, 05:05:35 PM »



Romney 56% - 535
Obama 42% - 3

I played as Obama and selected the most right wing answer for every question (25 of them).  I was expecting to lose (I did it on purpose), but when Romney got Vermont I was still shocked. 

Strangely,  DC still went 80% Obama, even though I said he was going to ban gay marriage, and get rid of Obamacare and social security.  The closest state was Rhode Island, which Romney still won by over 50%.
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