Salvador Allende vs. Augusto Pinochet

[TheDeadFlagBlues]

Go.

[Antonio the Sixth]

This can't end well...

[TNF]

Easily Allende, a true fighter for human freedom and justice.

[Sol]

Allende, duh.

[Cassius]

Pinochet.

[Lumine]

Why are people so obsessed with those two? I'm sick of the entire Allende/Pinochet feud coming up whenever I try to discuss politics here in Chile...

[WalterMitty]

who had better economic policies?  pinochet, obviously.

[© tweed]

Why are people so obsessed with those two? I'm sick of the entire Allende/Pinochet feud coming up whenever I try to discuss politics here in Chile...

it is an iconic distillery of post-1898 USA foreign policy.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

who had better economic policies?  pinochet, obviously.

Even if we grant that that's true, that makes up for being more of a mass-murdering thug?

[WalterMitty]

who had better economic policies?  pinochet, obviously.

Even if we grant that that's true, that makes up for being more of a mass-murdering thug?

no.

[© tweed]

who had better economic policies?  pinochet, obviously.

Even if we grant that that's true, that makes up for being more of a mass-murdering thug?

they can't be separated.  the mass-murder is a necessary tool of a Pinochetesque economic program.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

who had better economic policies?  pinochet, obviously.

Even if we grant that that's true, that makes up for being more of a mass-murdering thug?

no.

But you'd still vote for him over somebody who you think had worse economic policies but was also less of a mass-murdering thug?

[Arturo Belano]

Allende, duh.

[Peter the Lefty]

who had better economic policies?  pinochet, obviously.

Even if we grant that that's true, that makes up for being more of a mass-murdering thug?

no.

But you'd still vote for him over somebody who you think had worse economic policies but was also less of a mass-murdering thug?

Less of?

[H. Ross Peron]

The one who wasn't a dictator.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

who had better economic policies?  pinochet, obviously.

Even if we grant that that's true, that makes up for being more of a mass-murdering thug?

no.

But you'd still vote for him over somebody who you think had worse economic policies but was also less of a mass-murdering thug?

Less of?

Less of or, rather, not. I'm trying to convince WalterMitty that Allende was less bad than Pinochet, on the not insignificant chance that WalterMitty is one of those people who thinks that Allende was a mass-murdering thug.

[Mr. Illini]

Voted Allende moreso as an anti-Pinochet vote.

[WalterMitty]

who had better economic policies?  pinochet, obviously.

Even if we grant that that's true, that makes up for being more of a mass-murdering thug?

no.

But you'd still vote for him over somebody who you think had worse economic policies but was also less of a mass-murdering thug?

i never said that.

although im certainly no fanboy of allende.

[Peter the Lefty]

who had better economic policies?  pinochet, obviously.

Even if we grant that that's true, that makes up for being more of a mass-murdering thug?

no.

But you'd still vote for him over somebody who you think had worse economic policies but was also less of a mass-murdering thug?

i never said that.

although im certainly no fanboy of allende.

....soooo, you'd still vote for Allende over Pinochet, or are you trying to create some riddle for us to solve?

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

The one who didn't train dogs to rape dissidents.

[Vosem]

Not that I'm a particular fan of his, but Pinochet at least has some redeeming qualities.

[Peter the Lefty]

Not that I'm a particular fan of his, but Pinochet at least has some redeeming qualities.

Being a non-dictator isn't a redeeming quality?

[Vosem]

Not that I'm a particular fan of his, but Pinochet at least has some redeeming qualities.

Being a non-dictator isn't a redeeming quality?

Not really when the only thing stopping you is the military and you support communism in your foreign policy, no. Obviously, Allende was better than Pinochet in the field of human rights, but that's a rather low bar; and Pinochet could at least boast of supporting the right side in the Cold War and improving the state's economy. That doesn't excuse his crimes against human rights -- not at all -- but it is at least something his supporters can point to.

[Niemeyerite]

People who vote Pinochet are deluded.

[Hatman 🍁]

On the first date with my ex-girlfriend, she revealed to me how she did a project in HS praising Pinochet. I don't know what I saw in her.

As for my current girlfriend, I have to keep reminding her who Pinochet and Allende are