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« on: December 15, 2013, 01:48:15 AM »

A Greek neo-Nazi party nearly came to power in Peru? What?
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« Reply #1 on: December 15, 2013, 02:00:56 AM »

Oh well that's only slightly less absurd.

1-Shining Path did not exist until 1980 and wasn't a major factor until a few years later, long after Allende's presidency and after it would've peacefully ended if Allende remained in office.
2-George McGovern came closer to being President than Shining Path came to taking power in Peru. They might've controlled some rural areas for awhile but never came anywhere near taking Lima or any major population center, and it's virtually impossible to imagine a scenario where they did.
3-The Shining Path killed trade unionists, leftist politicians and even members of other leftist militant groups and were a Maoist anti-Soviet group, so the idea that Allende would've ever aided them is absurd.
4-Incidentally Peru DID have an authoritarian leftist government at the time Allende was in office and there never was any domino effect...that's about as nonsensical as the crap said during Vietnam.
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« Reply #2 on: December 15, 2013, 08:45:17 PM »

The "it" I was referring to was Allende's Presidency. There is no chance Allende would still be in office come 1980.

Attacking Lima is not the same thing as having a serious chance at controlling it, that's like saying the IRA ever controlled Belfast (actually there are some neighborhoods in Belfast that had periods of brief IRA control, which is better than the Shining Path ever got in Lima) or were close to driving the British out. But despite all that it's pretty absurd to say that Pinochet in Chile made all the difference in if the Shining Path was defeated or not, especially considering how small the Chile-Peru border is.

And considering that even Cuba wasn't willing to touch the Shining Path with a 50 foot pole, no there wouldn't be anyone in the Allende government who would either. Why on Earth would someone in a democratically elected socialist government want to back a militant Maoist group that consider such people a threat to their goals and was killing democratic leftist politicians and activists in Peru?
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