Keystone XL Pipeline Project thread

[Bandit3 the Worker]

I personally would have preferred them to run the new line right along the old line...

I don't even understand why they need a new line.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

If they build it, then the U.S. should get some of the oil from it instead of letting it get shipped overseas. Fair is fair.

That's up to the companies who own the oil...

[Bandit3 the Worker]

If they build it, then the U.S. should get some of the oil from it instead of letting it get shipped overseas. Fair is fair.

For free?

For free.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

If they build it, then the U.S. should get some of the oil from it instead of letting it get shipped overseas. Fair is fair.

For free?

For free.

So what should American companies give other companies when they travel over their airspace?

[King]

Considering the alternative is likely going to be shipping it on the ground by train or truck, I think I'd rather have the pipeline.

[Likely Voter]

Considering the alternative is likely going to be shipping it on the ground by train or truck, I think I'd rather have the pipeline.

Agreed. If it is true that the oil (and therefore the resulting carbon pollution) is going to be extracted no matter what, then a pipeline is much safer than rail and truck.   We would be better off with all that carbon remaining buried but it appears that ship has sailed

[Frodo]

So what do you all think?  Is the State Department EIS on the pipeline so compromised by the oil industry that it is too biased to be reliable, as the Greens are claiming here? 

[Bandit3 the Worker]

So what do you all think?  Is the State Department EIS on the pipeline so compromised by the oil industry that it is too biased to be reliable, as the Greens are claiming here? 

It absolutely is.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

It is telling that they are apparently unable to refute the conclusion and hence are forced to fall back on casting aspersions on the process.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

So what do you all think?  Is the State Department EIS on the pipeline so compromised by the oil industry that it is too biased to be reliable, as the Greens are claiming here? 

It absolutely is.

Evidence?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

So what do you all think?  Is the State Department EIS on the pipeline so compromised by the oil industry that it is too biased to be reliable, as the Greens are claiming here? 

It absolutely is.

Evidence?

You're asking Bandit for evidence that backs up his opinion?  Given your predilection for lost causes such as this, are you certain you aren't a Southerner?

[Frodo]

A Nebraska court just declared unconstitutional a law giving Governor Dave Heineman the right to approve the proposed Keystone route through his state.

And the saga continues....   

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

A Nebraska court just declared unconstitutional a law giving Governor Dave Heineman the right to approve the proposed Keystone route through his state.

And the saga continues....   

Does the Public Service Commission oppose the current pipeline plan?

[Frodo]

So what do you all think?  Is the State Department EIS on the pipeline so compromised by the oil industry that it is too biased to be reliable, as the Greens are claiming here? 

The State Dept. IG found that his agency did not violate any conflicts-of-interest rules when it chose an outside contractor.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Study Finds Keystone XL Would Have Much Larger Impact Than State Department Suggests

[Small Business Owner of Any Repute]

If I was a betting man, I'd invest in both oil company stock and in a company that bottles water.

[windjammer]

I hope Keystone XL Pipeline will never be approved, how to destroy Earth.

[Frodo]

New Post-ABC News poll: Keystone XL project overwhelmingly favored by Americans

By Juliet Eilperin and Scott Clement,
Published: March 7

Americans support the idea of constructing the Keystone XL oil pipeline between Canada and the United States by a nearly 3 to 1 margin, with 65 percent saying it should be approved and 22 percent opposed, according to a new Washington Post-ABC News poll.



The findings also show that the public thinks the massive project, which aims to ship 830,000 barrels of oil a day from Alberta and the northern Great Plains to refineries on the Gulf Coast, will produce significant economic benefits. Eighty-five percent say the pipeline would create a significant number of jobs, with 62 percent saying they “strongly” believed that to be the case.

At the same time, nearly half of those interviewed — 47 percent — say they think Keystone will pose a significant risk to the environment.

That so many Americans back the pipeline, even with environmental risks, highlights the quandary facing President Obama and his top aides as they weigh whether to approve the proposal.

[DINGO Joe]

What means this word significant?

[Simfan34]

The problem is it will not "pose significant risks to the environment" as is proven by the myriad reports the President has compelled this program to draft up. The sole reason it is presently unbuilt is because of the fact people think it does, and the President would like to appear strong on some issue. Which is a shame.

But of course, it's far easier to do nothing than to educate people, and once again, the easy option wins.

[Frodo]

New poll out, this time from Pew:

Keystone XL Pipeline Divides Democrats:
Proposal Retains 2-to-1 Support among Public

MARCH 19, 2014

As the Obama administration deliberates over whether to allow the Keystone XL pipeline to be built, the proposed pipeline continues to draw broad support from the public. Currently, 61% favor building the pipeline while 27% are opposed. These views have changed little over the past year.

As previous surveys on the pipeline proposal have found, there is far more support for constructing the pipeline among Republicans (84% favor) and independents (61%) than among Democrats. About half of Democrats (49%) favor building the pipeline while 38% are opposed.



The new national survey by the Pew Research Center, conducted Feb. 27-Mar. 16 among 3,335 adults, provides an opportunity for a detailed look at differences among Democrats on this issue. Opposition to building the pipeline is most widespread among highly educated Democrats, liberals and those with high family incomes.

[Simfan34]

Proof a college degree doesn't necessarily confer intelligence. Like vaccination, the Keystone pipeline has been shown to have no negative effects.

[Frodo]

At this rate, it looks as if the Obama administration is going to push the decision unto the next President, whomever it may be.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

What a joke. He obviously has no plans to let it be built, but he's not even willing to take the heat for the decision.

[Simfan34]

The President's shameful partisan hackery is disgraceful. Time after time every report has cleared the project yet here we still are. It's blatant pandering and I hope more groups bring this issue into focus come the fall.