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« Reply #125 on: February 02, 2014, 04:30:07 PM »

I'm going to have to object to that. We shouldn't be forcing blood tests on people.
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« Reply #126 on: February 02, 2014, 08:00:44 PM »

It was in the original bill, and it's the best form of testing. It's extremely callous toward the issue to suggest that blood testing is anything less.
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« Reply #127 on: February 02, 2014, 09:26:48 PM »

To clarify, are regions be able to restrict the demand of an officer for a blood test under this? If so, I will remove my objection.
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« Reply #128 on: February 03, 2014, 07:24:35 PM »

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2. F.L. 36-11: The You Can't Beat a DUI by Ducking the Breath Test Bill is amended in full to read:

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« Reply #129 on: February 03, 2014, 10:15:26 PM »

I would like to remove my objection if possible.  I will be offering an amendment to this to address the issue.
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« Reply #130 on: February 03, 2014, 10:20:42 PM »

Amendment to be placed at the end of section 2:
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« Reply #131 on: February 03, 2014, 10:38:17 PM »

I appreciate the sentiment of removing the objection, but I find the amendment hostile.

Blood testing is rendered inert by a warrant. In the time that it takes to get a warrant, the alcohol might have already left the suspect's system.
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« Reply #132 on: February 03, 2014, 10:52:00 PM »

I appreciate the sentiment of removing the objection, but I find the amendment hostile.

Blood testing is rendered inert by a warrant. In the time that it takes to get a warrant, the alcohol might have already left the suspect's system.

The same could be said of any evidence that would normally require a warrant to obtain (i.e. what if the suspect destroys the evidence in the meantime), but the truth is obtaining a warrant can be done fairly quickly with modern communications. 
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« Reply #133 on: February 04, 2014, 02:20:17 AM »

I appreciate the sentiment of removing the objection, but I find the amendment hostile.

Blood testing is rendered inert by a warrant. In the time that it takes to get a warrant, the alcohol might have already left the suspect's system.

The same could be said of any evidence that would normally require a warrant to obtain (i.e. what if the suspect destroys the evidence in the meantime), but the truth is obtaining a warrant can be done fairly quickly with modern communications. 

It's not really the same thing when you remove any opportunity for probable cause.
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« Reply #134 on: February 04, 2014, 04:41:29 PM »

I appreciate the sentiment of removing the objection, but I find the amendment hostile.

Blood testing is rendered inert by a warrant. In the time that it takes to get a warrant, the alcohol might have already left the suspect's system.

The same could be said of any evidence that would normally require a warrant to obtain (i.e. what if the suspect destroys the evidence in the meantime), but the truth is obtaining a warrant can be done fairly quickly with modern communications. 

It's not really the same thing when you remove any opportunity for probable cause.

Well you have a point even if I still believe strongly a warrant should be required.  But I want the other part of my amendment and this bill as a whole to pass, so maybe this isn't the best vehicle for it.  I'll just go with this instead:


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sorry Yank for any confusion.
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« Reply #135 on: February 04, 2014, 05:21:19 PM »

Friendly, and I appreciate your willingness to compromise on the issue. It will be remembered.
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« Reply #136 on: February 04, 2014, 08:29:33 PM »

Senators have 24 hours to object to 59:66 by Tyrionthe Imperialist.
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« Reply #137 on: February 07, 2014, 06:59:04 AM »

59:66 has been adopted.
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« Reply #138 on: February 07, 2014, 06:59:27 AM »

This done now?
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« Reply #139 on: February 07, 2014, 07:04:10 AM »

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« Reply #140 on: February 08, 2014, 08:48:23 AM »

The amendment has been adopted.


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« Reply #141 on: February 08, 2014, 03:44:16 PM »

Yeah, ready for a final vote methinks.
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« Reply #142 on: February 10, 2014, 03:04:03 AM »

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2. F.L. 36-11: The You Can't Beat a DUI by Ducking the Breath Test Bill is amended in full to read:

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I left the text change indicators since we are amending previous laws in stated fashion.
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« Reply #143 on: February 10, 2014, 03:04:48 AM »

Senators, a final vote is now open on the underlying legislation, please vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.
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« Reply #144 on: February 10, 2014, 03:11:13 AM »

Well, technically some of that text isn't indicative of the changes we made. The word "blood" was there in the original bill, for example. In any case, we're replacing the whole text, so whatever.

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« Reply #145 on: February 10, 2014, 08:52:25 AM »

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« Reply #146 on: February 10, 2014, 12:12:06 PM »

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« Reply #147 on: February 10, 2014, 12:53:13 PM »

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« Reply #148 on: February 10, 2014, 03:14:35 PM »

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« Reply #149 on: February 10, 2014, 06:41:14 PM »

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