SENATE BILL: Pacific Emergency Stimulus (Law'd)

[TNF]

Nay

[tmthforu94]

Aye, only because it is an improvement on the original version.

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

There is little the federal government can do to save the region. I support stimulus for them, but, like a loose woman, I definitely think we need strings attached instead of just handing them however many billion dollars we decide to give them.

[PPT Spiral]

Aye. I'm not very big on giving the region a stimulus at all, though.

[Maxwell]

Aye, because I think it's a good start to a serious stimulus for the Pacific.

[President Tyrion]

Nay

[bore]

Nay

[Gass3268]

Nay

[sentinel]

The North is open to taking the money in this act and passing a stimulus in our region. We can share some with the IDS.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Aye reluctantly


Vote ends tomorrow morning.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Amendment 58:62 by Maxwell:

Aye (4): Maxwell, NC Yankee, Spiral, and Tmthforu94
Nay (4): bore, Gass3268, TNF and Tyrion
Abstain (0):

Didn't Vote (0):
Vacant Seats (2): Napoleon and Xahar

The vote is tied and needs to be broken by the VP.

[President Tyrion]

Ok, so here's the process on this. First, we need to get Matt's vote. Then, we need to process my amendment (which would essentially undo Maxwell's regardless of its passage), so we'll see how that works. Then, we'd have to input some regulatory controls, by inserting Superique into the process.

Let me note that it's VERY important that we allow the Pacific to use the money in the HSR fund, so, at the very least, we need to make sure that we authorize that.

[Sopranos Republican]

AYE

As Senator Maxwell stated, I believe this a good place to start, let's do this and go from there. I for one, am not opposed to sending more to the Pacific, but let's start here.

[President Tyrion]

Alright, now I'll bring my amendment to the forefront.

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Points of interest:

• $15 billion more, with opt-outs instead of opt-ins.
• More leeway for the Pacific to spend the money, in that the scheduling still needs to be done relatively soon, but the spending can be more spread out.
• The Pacific can spend the money from the previous stimulus.
• Explicit penalties for a failure to use the funds in a timely manner.

[Maxwell]

The Pacific should be able to present what they've done, and improvements in their economy before each vote. I think you have done good by putting some beef behind this, but I'm wondering if this would just allow the money to keep rolling without some substance.

Either way, I don't think a huge chunk of this should be used for deficit reduction.

[PJ]

Since I became an officeholder in the Pacific, the HSR Initiative, Regional Parks Act, and the Pacific Hiring Incentives Act: Take Three Corollary have been passed to address unemployment, and the Pacific Sports Venue Funding Act has been passed to reduce spending. I have also introduced 4 more bills to address unemployment, a budget for 2014, and a bill to address the deficit. We are on track to reducing both, but the emergency stimulus would be a huge help.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Amendment 58:62 has been adopted.


Tyrion do you want to revise your amendment? IF not I can proceed with objection period.

[President Tyrion]

The Pacific should be able to present what they've done, and improvements in their economy before each vote. I think you have done good by putting some beef behind this, but I'm wondering if this would just allow the money to keep rolling without some substance.

Either way, I don't think a huge chunk of this should be used for deficit reduction.

How about we have some group of Superique, PJ, Speaker DemPGH, and I (along with Flo, I assume, since he's another active legislator, and whoever else wants in, I suppose) bring back a plan to the Senate, which can be opened to deliberation and a vote if two Senators object? This can happen each of the 4 times.

We don't need to have it be explicitly for deficit reduction. Like I've mentioned before, I'm not averse to deficits. I think we do need to have EXPLICIT job creation projects. I just worry that the Pacific has no borrowing power.

Amendment 58:62 has been adopted.


Tyrion do you want to revise your amendment? IF not I can proceed with objection period.

I'll await Maxwell's response and we can work something out. I think we're close so we can find something mutually acceptable.

[Maxwell]

I like the idea of the Pacific bringing forward their plan to the Senate, so that the Senate can continue. This shows that the Pacific has the initiate to get things done, though by force of the Senate. Still I think that would show progress.

[PJ]

I like the committee idea.

[President Tyrion]

Ok, I'll withdraw my previous amendment and offer this one. This amendment replaces the text of the bill in its entirety with the following:

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[Sec. of State Superique]

Could you answer me a doubt? What does HSR really stand for, folks?

[PJ]

Could you answer me a doubt? What does HSR really stand for, folks?

High Speed Rail

[Fmr. Pres. Duke]

Perhaps those in charge of the pacific can give us an idea of what they wish to accomplish with this money? I am all for financing projects or help out with their debt, but we need some concrete plan to help reduce unemployment and get their economy moving again. Issuing a check with no plan is just going to put a strain on our own budgetary concerns.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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