Canadian by-elections, 2014

[RogueBeaver]

If Vaughan won, would he have a chance under the new boundaries next year?

[Hatman 🍁]

If Vaughan won, would he have a chance under the new boundaries next year?

Of course; both successor ridings are less NDP friendly.

[lilTommy]

If Vaughan won, would he have a chance under the new boundaries next year?

Of course; both successor ridings are less NDP friendly.

I think Freeland is already running for the Nomination for University-Rosedale, so If Vaughan won TS he'd "have to" run in Fort York-Spadina... "Have to" because he can run in either riding, he could choose to give a big FU to the Liberal party and have two MPs fight for the nom in University-Rosedale. 

[Citizen Hats]

If Vaughan won, would he have a chance under the new boundaries next year?

Of course; both successor ridings are less NDP friendly.

I think Freeland is already running for the Nomination for University-Rosedale, so If Vaughan won TS he'd "have to" run in Fort York-Spadina... "Have to" because he can run in either riding, he could choose to give a big FU to the Liberal party and have two MPs fight for the nom in University-Rosedale. 

U-R has had it's nomination meeting already. The remotest possibility of such a contest has been forclosed

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Other than the dickwaving independent sort, o/c.

[Hatman 🍁]

Heh, this makes things a little weird, where we have by-elections on the old boundaries happening after nomination races on the new boundaries. Maybe Freeland should be running in Trinity-Spadina to get a foot hold in the new riding.

[King of Kensington]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/politics/vaughan-could-be-next-mp-of-torontos-trinity-spadina-poll/article18116120/#dashboard/follows/

No surprise.  Vaughan leads if he's the Liberal candidate, otherwise the NDP is ahead.

[RogueBeaver]

What are the numbers? I used up my 10 free articles.

[MaxQue]

What are the numbers? I used up my 10 free articles.

They aren't written in the article.

[RogueBeaver]

Never mind. Just says a majority support Vaughan.

[King of Kensington]

Highly respected former mayor David Crombie will be at Vaughan's launch tomorrow.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if David Miller came out for Vaughan either.

[Hatman 🍁]

52-31. Good job, NDP. Let's pick some white guy no one has ever heard of to fill the shoes of Olivia Chow. Why weren't we courting Vaughan?

[Hatman 🍁]

Not to say Cressy's not a good candidate, but clearly Vaughan is some sort of super star.

[King of Kensington]

52-31. Good job, NDP. Let's pick some white guy no one has ever heard of to fill the shoes of Olivia Chow. Why weren't we courting Vaughan?

Agreed.  I think he could have totally been courted to run for them.  

[adma]

Highly respected former mayor David Crombie will be at Vaughan's launch tomorrow.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if David Miller came out for Vaughan either.

Though difference is, Crombie's history is as a Red Tory, while Miller's is NDP, so the optics are "safer" for the former...

[King of Kensington]

Though difference is, Crombie's history is as a Red Tory, while Miller's is NDP, so the optics are "safer" for the former...

Not in Trinity-Spadina!  There are clearly lots of "Adam Vaughan New Democrats" in the riding.

ETA: Misread your post.  Yes David Crombie can safely endorse Vaughan while Miller would get some flak from his old party.

[DL]

Also, Crombie is in his 80s and retired (to say the least) so he has nothing to lose. Miller has no reason to intervene one way or the other and probably knows Cressy and Vaughan very well...

In answer to the question of why the NDP didn't approach Vaughan - well first of all how do we know they didn't. They likely approached lots of people about running. If they didn't approach him it would probably be some combination of knowing that he was always a closet Liberal, plus the fact that on a personal level Vaughan is detested by almost all the other progressive councillors and is considered to be a dick and very difficult to work with - so I assume the NDP didn't want to have him in their caucus!

[King of Kensington]

So you've heard second or third hand that most progressive councillors think that Vaughan is a dick? 

Good to know!

[DL]

52-31. Good job, NDP. Let's pick some white guy no one has ever heard of to fill the shoes of Olivia Chow. Why weren't we courting Vaughan?

So what would have been the alternative - a woman of colour no one had ever heard of who would be just as much of an underdog if not more? If Vaughan wins in the end it will be because no one the NDP could have nominated would have had any chance - apart from Mike Layton who apparently wanted to stay at city hall. If Vaughan loses (still entirely possible) it will be because Cressy works like dog over the next few months, uncovers some Liberal/Vaughan vulnerabilities and makes himself well-known.

Most REALLY famous people have better things to do with their time than to want to have a dreadful job like being a member of parliament

[DL]

So you've heard second or third hand that most progressive councillors think that Vaughan is a dick? 

Good to know!

Not second or third hand - first hand. He is a loner on council and very unpopular among his colleagues. Kind of a Rob Ford of the municipal left. That's neither here nor there - lots of people with horrible personalities who treat people like sh**t - get lots of votes!

[King of Kensington]

BTW who are the dicks who carry NDP cards?  Have you "heard" about them as well?

You don't have to say who they are - I'm just want a confirmation of their existence.

[DL]

What level of government are you referring to? I've heard that Adrian Dix turned out to be a bit of dick in BC

[King of Kensington]

In Toronto.  They exist, right?  Just asking.

[DL]

In Toronto.  They exist, right?  Just asking.

I've heard disparaging comments about Anthony Peruzza and supposedly Maria Augimeri has a few screws loose.

[King of Kensington]

Good thing they'll probably never run for MPP or MP then.

But seriously...a lot of this "personality" stuff doesn't matter much unless we're dealing with personality cults like Rob Ford where being a thug is his "politics."