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« Reply #25 on: January 01, 2014, 02:37:48 PM »

A fake holiday that blatantly rips off Christmas and Hanukkah.  I have nothing against celebrating black culture, but isn't that why we have Black History month in February?

Yes, there's no need to celebrate black history or culture in any of the other 11 months.
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« Reply #26 on: January 01, 2014, 02:56:12 PM »

A fake holiday that blatantly rips off Christmas and Hanukkah.  I have nothing against celebrating black culture, but isn't that why we have Black History month in February?

Yes, there's no need to celebrate black history or culture in any of the other 11 months.

Oldiesfreak seems like one of those who would complain about the lack of a "White History Month".
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« Reply #27 on: January 01, 2014, 03:13:07 PM »

A fake holiday that blatantly rips off Christmas and Hanukkah.  I have nothing against celebrating black culture, but isn't that why we have Black History month in February?

Nobody is asking you to celebrate Kwanzaa.  If you showed up at someone's kwanzaa celebration in Oakland or Cabrini Green, I think they would ask you to leave.  Kwanzaa is a black holiday for black people.  The idea is not that black people want you to celebrate their culture, they reject your culture and want to create their own. 

The way mormonism is bottom-up folk-theology, attempting to create a sense of identity for a group of people in America, Kwanzaa is folk-ethnic nationalism.
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« Reply #28 on: January 01, 2014, 03:15:41 PM »

A fake holiday that blatantly rips off Christmas and Hanukkah.  I have nothing against celebrating black culture, but isn't that why we have Black History month in February?

Who do you know who actually observes Black History Month in any meaningful way, other than some but not all or even most public schools?
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« Reply #29 on: January 01, 2014, 03:57:43 PM »

Only about 12% of blacks celebrate Kwanzaa per the most recent study on it so yeah, kind of a joke holiday. Dont see how it can be called a ripoff of Christmas and Hannukah though as it has nothing in common besides being held around the same time of year. For that matter Christmas and Hannukah have little in common besides time of the year at that.
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« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2014, 09:59:58 PM »

A fake holiday that blatantly rips off Christmas and Hanukkah.  I have nothing against celebrating black culture, but isn't that why we have Black History month in February?

Yes, there's no need to celebrate black history or culture in any of the other 11 months.

Oldiesfreak seems like one of those who would complain about the lack of a "White History Month".
I don't care if there's a White History Month.  And if people want to celebrate Kwanzaa, then that's their right as Americans, and I respect that.  It's not for me, though.
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« Reply #31 on: January 01, 2014, 10:07:36 PM »

A fake holiday that blatantly rips off Christmas and Hanukkah.  I have nothing against celebrating black culture, but isn't that why we have Black History month in February?

Yes, there's no need to celebrate black history or culture in any of the other 11 months.

Oldiesfreak seems like one of those who would complain about the lack of a "White History Month".
I don't care if there's a White History Month.  And if people want to celebrate Kwanzaa, then that's their right as Americans, and I respect that.  It's not for me, though.

That's the whole point of kwanzaa.  It's for black folks.  White people don't and aren't supposed to celebrate kwanzaa.
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« Reply #32 on: January 01, 2014, 10:10:14 PM »

A fake holiday that blatantly rips off Christmas and Hanukkah.  I have nothing against celebrating black culture, but isn't that why we have Black History month in February?

Yes, there's no need to celebrate black history or culture in any of the other 11 months.

Oldiesfreak seems like one of those who would complain about the lack of a "White History Month".
I don't care if there's a White History Month.  And if people want to celebrate Kwanzaa, then that's their right as Americans, and I respect that.  It's not for me, though.

That's the whole point of kwanzaa.  It's for black folks.  White people don't and aren't supposed to celebrate kwanzaa.

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« Reply #33 on: January 01, 2014, 10:17:55 PM »

A fake holiday that blatantly rips off Christmas and Hanukkah.  I have nothing against celebrating black culture, but isn't that why we have Black History month in February?

Yes, there's no need to celebrate black history or culture in any of the other 11 months.

Oldiesfreak seems like one of those who would complain about the lack of a "White History Month".
I don't care if there's a White History Month.  And if people want to celebrate Kwanzaa, then that's their right as Americans, and I respect that.  It's not for me, though.

That's the whole point of kwanzaa.  It's for black folks.  White people don't and aren't supposed to celebrate kwanzaa.

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« Reply #34 on: January 01, 2014, 10:24:36 PM »

That's the whole point of kwanzaa.  It's for black folks.  White people don't and aren't supposed to celebrate kwanzaa.

So should only Irish celebrate St. Patrick's Day?  Should only Germans celebrate Octoberfest?  Should only Mexicans celebrate Cinco De Mayo?  (As for the last one, I understand why the French wouldn't join in the festivities.)
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« Reply #35 on: January 01, 2014, 10:30:20 PM »
« Edited: January 02, 2014, 11:24:02 AM by shua »

A fake holiday that blatantly rips off Christmas and Hanukkah.  I have nothing against celebrating black culture, but isn't that why we have Black History month in February?

Yes, there's no need to celebrate black history or culture in any of the other 11 months.

Oldiesfreak seems like one of those who would complain about the lack of a "White History Month".
I don't care if there's a White History Month.  And if people want to celebrate Kwanzaa, then that's their right as Americans, and I respect that. It's not for me, though.

That's the whole point of kwanzaa.  It's for black folks.  White people don't and aren't supposed to celebrate kwanzaa.

so your defense of Kwanzaa is that it's racist?

edit: oh, totally misread the connotation of your posts.
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« Reply #36 on: January 01, 2014, 10:55:57 PM »

That's the whole point of kwanzaa.  It's for black folks.  White people don't and aren't supposed to celebrate kwanzaa.

So should only Irish celebrate St. Patrick's Day?  Should only Germans celebrate Octoberfest?  Should only Mexicans celebrate Cinco De Mayo?  (As for the last one, I understand why the French wouldn't join in the festivities.)

No.  But, correct me if I'm wrong, kwanzaa is a holiday born out of black nationalism.  That isn't an ideology interested in multiculturalism.  I know some of these people because I live in a black neighborhood.  It's essentially a clique of a few 50-70 year old black folks who want to complain about how bad white people are and pay lip service to some bastardized version of African culture.  I honestly do think this type of ideology is essentially racist, parochial and pointless. 
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« Reply #37 on: January 01, 2014, 11:37:40 PM »

A fake holiday that blatantly rips off Christmas and Hanukkah.  I have nothing against celebrating black culture, but isn't that why we have Black History month in February?

Yes, there's no need to celebrate black history or culture in any of the other 11 months.

Oldiesfreak seems like one of those who would complain about the lack of a "White History Month".
I don't care if there's a White History Month.  And if people want to celebrate Kwanzaa, then that's their right as Americans, and I respect that.  It's not for me, though.

That's the whole point of kwanzaa.  It's for black folks.  White people don't and aren't supposed to celebrate kwanzaa.

The vast majority of blacks don't celebrate it either.
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« Reply #38 on: January 01, 2014, 11:42:19 PM »

Honestly, no, I don't really know much about it. But I don't like most of the little bit that I have heard about it...
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« Reply #39 on: January 02, 2014, 09:17:13 AM »

Never heard of it before I found this thread.
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« Reply #40 on: January 02, 2014, 09:46:35 PM »

Never heard of it before I found this thread.

It's a random tidbit American children are taught in school in the name of multiculturalism. At least when I was little we were taught "The Holidays" are Christmas, Hanukkah, and Kwanzaa (I suppose nowdays we'd have to add the Winter Solstace and Festivus). Strangely they tend to generally leave out that almost no one actually celebrates Kwanzaa.
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« Reply #41 on: January 02, 2014, 10:26:53 PM »

If Festivus should be taught in school, then so should Talk Like A Pirate Day. Both of those are fake internet holidays. Kwanzaa is a fake real life holiday.
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