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Oswald Acted Alone, You Kook
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« on: December 30, 2013, 02:45:28 PM »

Do you know What Kwanzaa is?
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« Reply #1 on: December 30, 2013, 02:51:18 PM »

Yes, and I don't like it.  (Not a socialist.)
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« Reply #2 on: December 30, 2013, 02:55:23 PM »

I think I have an idea, though far from a working grasp. Not too huge a fan of it, as I recall.
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« Reply #3 on: December 30, 2013, 03:02:03 PM »

Yeah some radical "holiday" from the late 1960s with Black Panther associations. Next...
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« Reply #4 on: December 30, 2013, 03:29:01 PM »

Yes (not racist)
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« Reply #5 on: December 30, 2013, 03:30:20 PM »

I watched the Rugrats episode about it, yes.
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« Reply #6 on: December 30, 2013, 03:31:10 PM »

I am familiar with the color pallette
There are candles to be lit
There is a slightly more modern looking menorah
Each candle represents a value or virtue or something
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« Reply #7 on: December 30, 2013, 04:00:59 PM »

Seems like a prime example of an "invention of traditions".

Not a fan.
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« Reply #8 on: December 30, 2013, 04:04:39 PM »

Seems like a prime example of an "invention of traditions".

Not a fan.

Bless you.
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« Reply #9 on: December 30, 2013, 04:48:59 PM »

All traditions are invented
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« Reply #10 on: December 30, 2013, 04:49:26 PM »


Yeah, what the hell is Antonio talking about?
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« Reply #11 on: December 30, 2013, 04:59:37 PM »

I just knew it's The Obamanation's topic.
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« Reply #12 on: December 30, 2013, 05:23:43 PM »


Yeah, what the hell is Antonio talking about?

Yeah but the issue is that this is perceived as a forces creation of a tradition just for the sake of having a competing tradition.
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« Reply #13 on: December 30, 2013, 05:52:41 PM »


Yeah, what the hell is Antonio talking about?

Yeah but the issue is that this is perceived as a forces creation of a tradition just for the sake of having a competing tradition.

Which I don't have a problem with.  It's the political agenda embedded within the holiday I find objectionable.
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« Reply #14 on: December 30, 2013, 11:06:53 PM »


Hate to break it to you, but you're not a racist if you don't know what a specific holiday is or what it's about.

Now if you don't know what it is and you're saying derogatory terms to the people that celebrate the holiday based on their race, religion, or the region where they came from, you might be a little racist.
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« Reply #15 on: December 30, 2013, 11:10:24 PM »

No. Something about candles and funny hats pretty much sums up my knowledge of it. I also don't know anyone who celebrates it who makes doing so public.
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« Reply #16 on: December 30, 2013, 11:27:21 PM »

When I was little, most of the books and videos about holiday traditions that I was exposed to at home and at school gave the impression that at the very least a majority of African Americans celebrated Kwanzaa. And not really knowing any African Americans due to the homogenous nature of my school and neighborhood when I was a young child, I assumed this was the case until I was at least a teenager. When I explained this to a black friend in college, he looked at me like I was crazy and told me he had never celebrated Kwanzaa and didn't know anyone who ever did.
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« Reply #17 on: December 31, 2013, 12:19:25 AM »

I don't think more than a few people celebrate Kwanzaa. 

I live in a black neighborhood.  We still have "boycott Florida" posters up, we have a Nation of Islam office, a black Israelite office/abandoned storefront, a black nationalist Jazz club, every possible variety of black church, Marcus Garvey murals and tons of super-specific examples of black culture. 

I have never seen anything related to Kwanzaa or heard anyone talk about it.  If nobody celebrates Kwanzaa where I live, I can't imagine that anyone does.   
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« Reply #18 on: December 31, 2013, 03:48:09 AM »
« Edited: December 31, 2013, 03:50:00 AM by Interim Assemblyman-elect Hifly »

Only in America could something so stupid have been created and celebrated (albeit by just a few people because anyone who isn't a half-wit wouldn't celebrate it).
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« Reply #19 on: December 31, 2013, 03:55:05 AM »

Only in America could something so stupid have been created and celebrated (albeit by just a few people because anyone who isn't a half-wit wouldn't celebrate it).

And that kids, is someone being rude by attacking people who celebrate a specific holiday.
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« Reply #20 on: December 31, 2013, 04:17:05 AM »

Only in America could something so stupid have been created and celebrated (albeit by just a few people because anyone who isn't a half-wit wouldn't celebrate it).

>implying more popular and culturally imbedded holidays are any less frivolous than Kwanzaa
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« Reply #21 on: December 31, 2013, 10:10:03 AM »

When I was little, most of the books and videos about holiday traditions that I was exposed to at home and at school gave the impression that at the very least a majority of African Americans celebrated Kwanzaa. And not really knowing any African Americans due to the homogenous nature of my school and neighborhood when I was a young child, I assumed this was the case until I was at least a teenager. When I explained this to a black friend in college, he looked at me like I was crazy and told me he had never celebrated Kwanzaa and didn't know anyone who ever did.

Welcome to liberalism. When I was growing up in school each year we recycled info about the underground railroad only to find it nearly irrelevant to today's events. Would have been much better off learning about WWII or the Cold War.
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« Reply #22 on: December 31, 2013, 09:53:03 PM »

I know, people need to teach more late 20th century history.
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« Reply #23 on: December 31, 2013, 09:53:50 PM »

Seems like a prime example of an "invention of traditions".

Not a fan.
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« Reply #24 on: January 01, 2014, 02:16:12 PM »

A fake holiday that blatantly rips off Christmas and Hanukkah.  I have nothing against celebrating black culture, but isn't that why we have Black History month in February?
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