Canada General Discussion 1.5: The Countdown Begins

[MaxQue]

NDP would tax stock-options, as more and more executives are paid in stock-options to evade taxes. Would be interested to hear Liberal and Conservative reaction to that.

[DC Al Fine]

NDP would tax stock-options, as more and more executives are paid in stock-options to evade taxes. Would be interested to hear Liberal and Conservative reaction to that.

What exactly are they doing?

All the articles and press releases say things like close the loophole, but they could mean three or four different things by that since stock options are such an odd sort of income from a taxation perspective.

[DC Al Fine]

EDIT: on the topic of Alberta, the government tabled the budget for this year today.  Notable amongst the changes is the abandonment of the flat income tax; starting in 2016, new higher tax brackets will come into existence for incomes between $100,000 and $250,000 per year, and for incomes over $250,000 per year.

One small quibble. I wouldn't really call Alberta's taxation truly flat in the first place. I count 18 tax credits on their provincial return

[MaxQue]

NDP would tax stock-options, as more and more executives are paid in stock-options to evade taxes. Would be interested to hear Liberal and Conservative reaction to that.

What exactly are they doing?

All the articles and press releases say things like close the loophole, but they could mean three or four different things by that since stock options are such an odd sort of income from a taxation perspective.

Well, I'm not part of the NDP leader ship and they don't seem to have described in details how they would do it (which is normal, you want to convince voters, not explain fiscality to specialists).

[Njall]

EDIT: on the topic of Alberta, the government tabled the budget for this year today.  Notable amongst the changes is the abandonment of the flat income tax; starting in 2016, new higher tax brackets will come into existence for incomes between $100,000 and $250,000 per year, and for incomes over $250,000 per year.

One small quibble. I wouldn't really call Alberta's taxation truly flat in the first place. I count 18 tax credits on their provincial return

Haha, I recall a talking point much along those lines in the government's 2014 tax plan documents.

[DC Al Fine]

NDP would tax stock-options, as more and more executives are paid in stock-options to evade taxes. Would be interested to hear Liberal and Conservative reaction to that.

What exactly are they doing?

All the articles and press releases say things like close the loophole, but they could mean three or four different things by that since stock options are such an odd sort of income from a taxation perspective.

Well, I'm not part of the NDP leader ship and they don't seem to have described in details how they would do it (which is normal, you want to convince voters, not explain fiscality to specialists).

Ok. One small quibble. The reason why stock options are so popular is because they are a cheap form of compensation for the company, not because of the favourable tax treatment the employee receives.

[RogueBeaver]

Danielle Smith got thumped in her PC nomination bid. Dramatic if unsurprising end to this season of Albertan House of Cards.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

Danielle Smith got thumped in her PC nomination bid. Dramatic if unsurprising end to this season of Albertan House of Cards.

Her star sure has fallen.

[Hatman 🍁]

Danielle Smith got thumped in her PC nomination bid. Dramatic if unsurprising end to this season of Albertan House of Cards.

Wow. Makes sense though, Tories in her riding were probably pissed of with her winning the seat in the first place.

[RogueBeaver]

If Prentice really wanted her, he'd have appointed, but didn't. I wouldn't be surprised if as Levant noted on Twitter, Manning hires her.

[Hatman 🍁]

Why did she join the PCs again?

[DC Al Fine]

Why did she join the PCs again?

Because she's dumb and massively overestimated her popularity with a party she spent several years attacking?

Seriously though, how the hell do you engineer a mass floor-crossing and not negotiate guaranteed nominations?

[RogueBeaver]

To use the obvious QC parallel, Duplessis didn't go outta his way to keep Gouin and Hamel either. Unconditional surrender is just that.

[Njall]

Why did she join the PCs again?

Because she's dumb and massively overestimated her popularity with a party she spent several years attacking?

Seriously though, how the hell do you engineer a mass floor-crossing and not negotiate guaranteed nominations?

She tried, but from what I gather, the PC caucus would have revolted if that was carried out.

On a related note, due to the events of this Saturday's nominations, 5 of the 11 WRP floor crossers won their nominations and will be running as PCs in the next election, while 3 were defeated in their nominations, and 3 didn't run for re-election. 

[DC Al Fine]

Why did she join the PCs again?

Because she's dumb and massively overestimated her popularity with a party she spent several years attacking?

Seriously though, how the hell do you engineer a mass floor-crossing and not negotiate guaranteed nominations?

She tried, but from what I gather, the PC caucus would have revolted if that was carried out.

I understand up to that point, but it still baffles me that she didn't break off negotiations when Prentice couldn't guarantee nominations. After all, if you are killing your party to gain access to power, you better make damn sure you actually get access

[DC Al Fine]

A more reputable Alberta poll is out.

PC: 46%
Lib: 18%
NDP: 17%
Wildrose: 16%

Well this has all the makings of a PC landslide

[DC Al Fine]

Re: Above. It's Environics for Feb. The link on wiki makes you download a zip, so I didn't post it.

[RogueBeaver]

For the YOLO Files: James Lunney quits the Tory caucus because he feels creationists are muzzled.

[Hatman 🍁]

How does a creationist get elected in Vancouver Island of all places?

[RogueBeaver]

He's been in Parliament for 15 years, and it isn't like the national environment was much more creationist-friendly back then. So the whole thing seems mystifying.

[DC Al Fine]

How does a creationist get elected in Vancouver Island of all places?

Did you know he was a creationist say a year ago?

If you don't go around advertizing it, I imagine its fairly easily to be elected as a creationist with any party.

[RogueBeaver]

At least 40 current and former senators being held to account for questionable expenses. Fife names 3 Grits and 1 Tory, only name I recognize is Joyal.

[RogueBeaver]

Budget on the 21st.

[Hatman 🍁]

How does a creationist get elected in Vancouver Island of all places?

Did you know he was a creationist say a year ago?

If you don't go around advertizing it, I imagine its fairly easily to be elected as a creationist with any party.

The evidence is all around him. Vancouver Island is full of old fossils! </zing>

[Peeperkorn]

I was watching videos from around the world, take a look to Canada and !!! I'm so clueless about Sikhs as MPs. And even the conservatives have at least one member! Someone knows some article or book of sikh integration in Canadian politics? Sorry for my English, I'm quite drunk.