Sandoval/Martinez vs. Warner/Gillibrand
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« on: January 03, 2014, 06:56:41 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: January 03, 2014, 06:58:51 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: January 03, 2014, 07:01:17 PM »

3 moderates and a New York liberal.



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« Reply #3 on: January 03, 2014, 07:09:26 PM »

One big flaw in a Sandoval candidacy is that he's pro-choice SoCons/Evangelicals base would mostly collapse; a lot would hold their nose for moderates for the most part but a pro-Choice one is a bridge too far. I think Sandoval would do poorly in the South leaving an opening for Warner.
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« Reply #4 on: January 03, 2014, 07:12:23 PM »

How about making Martinez the presidential candidate and Sandoval the vice presidential candidate?
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« Reply #5 on: January 03, 2014, 07:13:05 PM »

Sandoval is incredibly qualified and a fairly effective campaigner. Martinez compounds his strengths, although the ticket will have to deal with a fair amount of racism from the tea party.

Warner is a good candidate on the merits, but lacks charisma. Gillibrand is decent, but she's up against an even stronger potential female VP.

This one is as close as it gets.

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« Reply #6 on: January 03, 2014, 07:16:51 PM »

Sandoval is too moderate to win the nomination. Switch the places and the Republican ticket would be realistic.
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« Reply #7 on: January 03, 2014, 07:37:17 PM »

Strong tickets.

I'd give the edge to Sandoval/ Martinez due to their unique appeal to an increasingly significant Democratic constituency and the tendency of political parties to peak and decline in presidential elections.



Warner/ Gilibrand- 239 electoral votes- 47.5%
Sandoval/ Martinez- 299 electoral votes- 51.5%

Due to Warner's popularity in his home state, he might do well enough to keep it in play.



Warner/ Gilibrand- 270 electoral votes- 47.9%
Sandoval/ Martinez- 268 electoral votes- 50.3%

Incidentally, this wouldn't be Warner's strongest possible showing. It does highlight problems Republicans would have without Virginia.
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« Reply #8 on: January 03, 2014, 08:55:58 PM »



Sandoval/Martinez - 313
Warner/Gillibrand - 225
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« Reply #9 on: January 03, 2014, 09:02:48 PM »

Would be interesting. Can see a lot of abstentions among conservatives given that they nominated two browns, one of which is pro-choice. And it's not like Warner is super liberal either.
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« Reply #10 on: January 03, 2014, 09:07:35 PM »

Could Warner put WV/KY into play? I would think a combination of Sandoval/Martinez's "exoticism" and the fact that Martinez comes from a big natural gas-producing state and thus isn't exactly any more a "friend of coal" than the Democrats.
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« Reply #11 on: January 03, 2014, 09:09:07 PM »

Would be interesting. Can see a lot of abstentions among conservatives given that they nominated two browns, one of which is pro-choice. And it's not like Warner is super liberal either.
And if the Democrats moderated on the abortion, that would spell even more trouble for the GOP.
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« Reply #12 on: January 04, 2014, 09:49:46 AM »

The ticket would collapse before it even began. Sandoval's presence basically guarantees a third party social conservative bid, and this fact is compounded by the backlash that will happen given both candidates are Hispanic. Additionally, both Sandoval and especially Martinez are not the greatest campaigners and would likely do poorly in the national spotlight.
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